I'm amazed that AVB has come out fighting in defense of his decision to let Lloris play on after being knocked unconscious by a blow to the head on Saturday. His decision was rightly criticised by top specialists on Sunday, and now he has added insult to injury by accusing the media of trying to smear the medical staff at White Hart Lane. This is disgraceful nonsense. These doctors have no axe to grind and he should listen to them, not dig himself into an even bigger hole. Brad Friedel was ready to come on, when a groggy Lloris said he wanted to play on, and a weak AVB gave in to him. He should just admit he made a mistake.
to be fair to AVB, he didnt look like he could stop lloris from coming back on. the goalie was adamant he was going to play
Lloris is a big boy, and he was able to play on with no issue. Spurs' medical staff are trained to deal with all types of injuries and would not have allowed him to play on if they didn't consider him fit to do so. People from all walks of life get injured in the line of duty, but they carry on regardless. It is no big deal.
i think the commentators at the time said its nice to see a player just get up and get on with it, like the old days. i think if they had come on the pitch, inspected him and he was clearly not fit then obviously go off. but the player will know himself better than anyone and you could see that he felt he was ok. having said that, i do understand why he shouldve gone off - but either outcome wouldve had anything to do with AVB
I've suffered from concussion twice, the first time I didn't really know what was happening after the impact and thought I could continue about my day. I made my own journey home after travelling on the bus with friends, only for my parents to see me collapse a mere few hours later at home (oblivious to the fact what had happened). He should have been protected more, there was no telling at that time what damage had been suffered (or could have been). It was irresponsible.
its true (irresponsible). but i'm pretty sure in the event of a medical situation, the medic is in charge. not avb?
Definitely agree with that. I doubt Lloris was coherent enough to fully understand what had happened, definitely unable to grasp the potential damage. He should have been forced off - no matter how much he wanted to stay on, someone should have fought not just as hard, but harder to get him to a hospital.
Just moments after the match had restarted, Lloris came out and collected a high ball with absolute aplomb. He was not swaying, he was not vomiting, but he certainly was compos mentis.
He did want to risk putting in some incompetent rookie like Brad Friedel. What does he know about goalkeeping?
But that doesn't mean something couldn't have been wrong. In both instances with my concussion vomiting was a sympton which arrived over 12 hours later. The club, like every employer, has a duty of care to their staff. They failed in this instance.
Unlike Lloris, I am pretty sure you didn't have a team of medics, ambulance crews, and doctors around you. Lloris did not suffer from concussion, nor did he lose consciousness at any time. Moreover, he was dealt with by the very same medics who saved the life of Fabrice Muamba - the same medics who have studied sports injuries for many years and who followed all the guidelines to the letter of the law. No one is at fault here.
I severely doubt any of those medics could have said with complete(!) conviction that they were certain that there was nothing wrong with Lloris, whether it being an immediate sign or an unsurfaced trauma (it's not unusual for symptons to appear several days afterwards). If there were a doubt, they should have done the right thing and removed him from the game and taken him to hospital. To put a player who had lost consciousness back in to an environment where he has no guaranteed protection was idiotic and put the player at risk. Yes, Lloris showed an eagerness to get back on the pitch, but as can be the case with head injuries your brain might not be registering the full throttle of the impact and what it's had on your own body as it's just taken a severe blow itself!
I was supposed to say that Lloris was not unconscious for any real amount of time, otherwise the law would have dictated his removal from the pitch. His dazed spell was momentary and did not require further action at that time. The medics at Spurs are experts and would not have risked the life of a player. To suggest otherwise is folly. So many sports people take whacks to the head, but they get up and carry on. That is one of the perils of contact sport, or should we resort to all players in all sports wearing helmets?
Only because he lost consciousness should the decision have been taken out of Lloris' hands and he be taken off. Having said that, as super points out concussion can occur hours after taking a blow to the head and a person does not have to lose consciousness for it to occur. My point being, where do we draw the line at what point a player should be taken off the field? Should we have a team of medics pitchside for when Morro makes his first headed clearance on Saturday?
Blimey, you are an expert, SuperC. Owing to your in-depth knowledge of head traumas, you should make an application to replace the 'idiots' at Tottenham. One bout of concussion, and you have become the next Dr. Ashpole. In all seriousness, though, I know what damage can be inflicted by head injuries; I have lost two beloved relatives to such traumas, but there has to be instances where free-will and expert opinion take over. The Spurs medics are far from idiotic.
I've just been listening to a medic on the 5-live news, who said there is now clear evidence that sportsmen who play on after being knocked out run a severe risk of premature dementia. It's a problem which Rugby is looking at seriously, too. It took boxing a long time to waken up to it, but now they realise the seriousness. I really can't see the problem, you bring on your sub goalie and take Lloris for a check-up. Simple!
