That's way OTT & totally unworkable imo. If you put the onus on the doctor, then he would say that every head injury would require a scan......as the 0.01% risk, would lie on his shoulders. You'd end up losing a CB every other week for a cut on the eyebrow or a minor head gash.
FIFA already have 4 major indicators of Concussion which all medics should look for. If any 1 of them is obvious to the doctor then the player should be removed from the pitch. It's not OTT its just bloody common sense!
Dunno if you've had time to read through the whole post Tobes, but I continually said NOT to demonise AVB or Spurs (though his comment re overruling the medic because of 'football experience' is part of the problem, imho). Somewhere up this post I listed the NHS guidelines re concussion; memory loss and disorientation is one of them. Let's say it's year zero, and henceforth the FA (or powers that be) list protocols that are communicated and understood re concussion - or suspected concussion. If a trained medic says so, the player goes off until tested. FFS, we have three subs nowadays - that is WELL enough to take into account losing a player in these circumstances, and if a manager would rather risk using their subs for tactical reasons, then so be it if that leaves them short over a genuine injury. Some would argue that injuries are what subs for - not replenishing tired or underperforming players. It's not '65 anymore when Gerry Byrne had to play on with a broken collarbone, nor the 50's when Bert Trautmann played on with a broken neck. We know more about concussion nowadays and its after effects than ever before. With three subs there should be no need to keep players on for the sake of it. Hell, increase the subs to four or five if it's such an issue. Btw, Friend - I still don't know why he booked Lukaku. By his reasoning he may just as well have booked Lloris for head-butting Lukaku's knee. Dickhead.
I totally agree with you mate, as I wasn't referring solely to this thread, I was aiming that comment at the overblown nonsense coming from various quarters, that has now even seen FIFA decry him ffs. If a protocol is introduced tomorrow, that says if a player has been knocked out then they should be withdrawn, then I doubt there'd be many dissenting voices.
Where was all the outrage from other fans, governing bodies, and the media, when Everton allowed Lukaku to play on in the match against West Ham where he was knocked unconscious while scoring a header? Why all the outrage now when practically exactly the same incident happened six weeks ago and no one batted an eyelid?
What outrage are you talking about, you sound like the spuds fans on 606 trying to justify AVBs actions. If the media had not reported what happened Lloris in the game I would not have known tbh, didn't watch the match. But seeing as you are talking about outrage and not the subject you may be considered a troll. Lets put it this way my idiot spud, what if like Cech he had a fractured skull, same type of collision? Nothing the spurs staff did would determine if that was the case before letting him continue, what happened Cech should have been an indicator of what can be wrong after getting a belt like that in the head. If Lloris died from an injury sustained in that game Spurs and AVB would be in a serious legal predicament for letting him continue, so it seems it is all OK Until something bad happens
I'm unaware of any 'outrage'. The difference with Lloris is, it was live on tv so more people were aware of it instantly, hence the brain injury groups etc getting involved very quickly. Flamini and Lukaku's recent concussions weren't on live tv and that's probably why both weren't headlines the next day. Flamini also missed the Dortmund game because of the 5 day rule following concussion.
Maybe you should look up a definition of outrage instead of desperately trying to be the smart funny guy then look up disgust, you will find they have different meanings Shouldn't you also be on the Suarez related thread trying to brainwash us into believing your bollocks about him and relating it to the housing market?
hahaha, in a desperate act of face saving, he tries to back peddle from his horrendous howler by incorrectly citing the semantics I think you'll find that the definition of outrage, includes 'shock & indignation' & I think your pathetic opener (as quoted) contains both.....
Also like a true over opinionated troll with an inflated sense of self esteem on not606 brought about by his football team winning Tobes ignores the valid points Also, are you depressed? you seriously over use the laugh emoticon, do you always laugh at your own jokes?
What 'valid points' have I ignored exactly? Please enlighten me. Oh & you labelling anyone a troll, is akin to Jimmy Savile calling the Hairy Cornflake a nonce.....
They're words on a screen lad, the smileys are merely forum nonsense. The fact that you're applying a 'manic' connotation to factual posts, says more about your mental state than mine......
AVB has just doubled-down on his disgraceful decision to keep Lloris on the pitch. He used the "no football rule against it" defence to sidestep basic human decency. This is a rare case of health and safety not "going mad" and he has decided that it's a hill he is prepared to die on.
Simply because clubs, managers, players and even refs can't agree what should be done when head injuries occur it means that the regulatory authorities FIFA, UEFA, FA, The Premiership must set out clear regulations as to what should happen and who has the authority. We know enough about the effects of brain injury from other sports to know that neither players, managers or even physios have enough knowledge or training to make a valid assessment. Therefore a medically qualified person must take responsibility and his/her decision must be mandated by the ref. I don't know if the story about a manager asking about the condition of a player and on being told that the player couldn't even remember his own name said "Get him on his feet, tell him he's Pele and get him back on the pitch" is true or not. However it shows a complete disregard for player safety that has no place in football today. By the same rule neither does Butcher's bleeding pirate act.
Concussed players should be withdrawn, no question. All other head injuries should be treated with the usual tests following such injuries completed to a doctor's satisfaction having also taken place, players with those type of injuries can return to play on. That is simple enough to administer.
Just been reading that AVB thinks it's 'remarkable' that no mention of Lukaku's part in it has been picked on. He believes that he could have avoided the contact quite easily and is also disappointed that he hasn't been in touch with Lloris since the incident to see if he's alright!
