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Martin o neil next Fulham manager ? ? ?

Discussion in 'Fulham' started by roscafre, Nov 2, 2013.

  1. roscafre

    roscafre Active Member

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    I am undecided on this rumor,but lets face it his expertise may bring something to a team that
    is totally deviod of any ideas. A shake up is definatly required especially amongst his signing failures.
     
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  2. Fulhaman

    Fulhaman Well-Known Member

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    He was hardly a roaring success at Sunderland. Not a modern manager and probably a step backwards from Jol in fact.
     
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  3. Fulhaman

    Fulhaman Well-Known Member

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    Papers have him in a double act with Keane for the Irish job anyway.
     
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  4. Take Me Home Al Fayed

    Take Me Home Al Fayed Member

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    hope we go for a young upcoming manager with new ideas.Definitely DONT want an old school manager like Cerbishley, McLeish, Pullis etc

    I think O'Neal falls into the dinosaur bracket although he would be an improvement on what we have.

    Love to have Sean Dyche or even Lee Clarke given the opportunity to prove themselves at the top level.
     
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  5. FFC_Madness

    FFC_Madness Well-Known Member

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    I don't think we are in the business to know what is available out there.

    Young and ambitious manager. They are out there and the board will know where to look.
     
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  6. GeraScores

    GeraScores Well-Known Member

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    Definate NO NO NO to MON.
     
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  7. frogman27

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    Absolutely no way to MON. As mentioned above he is old school and would be no different to Jol. This is part of the issue, there are no obvious choices out there. When you look at recent managers, where did Southampton get pochettino from ?

    We need to have an identity at the moment, we do not seem to have a style of play that you identify.
     
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  8. dempsey's revenge

    dempsey's revenge Active Member

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    I like him. I've always liked him, but I'm not sure given our current form and roster of gutless players that he'd sign on as the head of this crew. The only redeeming virtue of this team is that it's not Crystal Palace, Norwich or Cardiff.
     
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  9. Cravingawin

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    Not for me.
     
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  10. DeanFulhamite

    DeanFulhamite New Member

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    No thank you, what would he bring that would take us forward.

    I'd rather we went for Sean Dyche he seems know how he wants his team play, an ethos if you will, and the energy and enthusiasm to take the players with him.
     
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  11. Super Brian McBride

    Super Brian McBride Well-Known Member

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    Let's face it the type of manager we would like in the class of an Ancelotti or Hiddink to get us to the next level we can't afford and we don't have the transfer budget to tempt them.
    The likes of Oneil or others who can work to our budget are no guarantee that they would be do any better than what we have at present.
    I think if MAF was still in charge of Fulham Jol may well have got sacked after the Cardiff game, but I can't see it happening under Shahid Kahan after what he has said.

    Would someone like Gerard Houllier working alongside Danny Murphy work ? Who knows I still think it would be a gamble.
    Gérard Houllier has had medical problems so not sure if he would want to take such a stressful job.
     
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  12. Cottager58

    Cottager58 Well-Known Member

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    Hiddink would be terrific but as you say SuperBri, he'd want a barrowload of money. Shad Khan has a barrowload but can't see him dishing it out quite so quickly on a high earning new manager and the January window.


    A definite NO from me for Martin O'Neill. We need someone who can get the correct blend between the experience and youth already at the Club. It would be good as Madness said, if they were "young and ambitious", although that may be a risk too far at the moment. I think it will need someone who also carries their own level of experience. Potentially two doing well in the Championship just now would meet that; Nigel Pearson of Leicester and Gianfranco Zola of Watford.

    An altogether different scenario of course is that Shad Khan is prepared to gamble that there are three teams worse than us in the Premiership and let Jol run his course till the end of the season and dump him then at no cost.
     
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  13. Captain Morgan

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    Is it just me that thinks it's wrong to discuss who should take Jol's place while he's still in the job? Oh well, it looks like the genie is out of the bottle and the discussion has started now.

    No to O'Neill. Once, maybe, but not any more. I'd prefer to see an experienced manager - 10 years as a number 1 ideally, 5 years as a minimum -but as others have said there aren't many obvious candidates who don't come with baggage (Warnock? Pulis? No thanks.) Of the inexperienced options Dyche is just too inexperienced - 2 jobs in as many years. Pearson has over 5 years, and might not be a bad choice, but Zola only has about 3 years and didn't do great at West Ham.

    Here are two promising young managers who might be worth a punt, although they've both got less experience than I'd prefer: Ole Gunner Solskjaer of Molde and Eddie Howe of Bournemouth. Howe has 5 years under his belt, Solskjaer 3 (plus 3 years as manager of United's reserve team). Howe's teams are always attacking, playing with genuine wingers and a bit of guile. He also has an excellent eye for talent spotting. As well as Danny Ings, he discovered Charlie Austin when he was playing at non-league level. He was prevented from signing him for Bournemouth because of a transfer embargo, and had to see Swindon move in on him before it was lifted. In five years time, I think he'd be perfect, but he could be worth a gamble now. I vaguely recall Solskjaer being offered a premier league job a couple of years ago (Villa? West Brom? Can't remember - sorry) and turning it down, so maybe he wouldn't be interested. It could be worth trying though, as lots of people seem to think that he's something special.

    But my real first choice is Kit Symons. If we're going to go with inexperience, lets go for someone who already knows our youngsters and is in the best possible position to enable us to get the best out of them. Appointing from within isn't always a good move, but I've yet to hear a suggestion that seems like a better fit.
     
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  14. fulham traveller

    fulham traveller Well-Known Member

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    I say we look abroad and find another one like the saints boss, its the same old names all the time, I stiil say give jol 3 more games, I have the feeling we will turn things round, its just a feeling I have
     
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  15. Captain Morgan

    Captain Morgan Well-Known Member

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    Like you Traveller, I still have some sympathy for Jol and think he's a good manager, but I think it's all gone too far now. If we were to beat Liverpool next weekend, then win the next 3 or 4 in a row, all it would take is one bad performance and the crowd would turn against him again. The bad run has gone on for too long, and I just don't see him winning the crowd back even if things do change. I'm not saying he's blameless - he has continued to put out unbalanced sides and not address some of the ongoing issues - but I think we've passed the tipping point now and even if Jol and the players turn things around I think it's too late for him, sadly.
     
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  16. FFC_Madness

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    Something like Sparky? :)
     
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  17. roscafre

    roscafre Active Member

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    There are many articles in todays papers wher Joll castigates the booing of Ruiz by a
    large section of the Fulham fans.
    Another example of this incompentent if he cannot see the lack of commitment his
    pride and joy brings to the Fulham side.
     
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  18. dempsey's revenge

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    I watched an interview with Khan last week (the BBC I think) when he was asked about Fulham's form and Jol's situatoin. Paraphrasing, he said that as a businessman he's learned "acting impetuously" rarely yields a good result in the long run.

    OK, I appreciate that Khan's a level-headed guy, not prone to panic, but I don't think he realizes yet the dire straights Fulham finds itself in. The team is playing very, very badly. If half of the key players were injured but due to return next week, I'd say let's wait and see what happens. If we'd just played 10 games in a row against top teams, I'd say wait and see. If we'd had a bad run of luck, losing close games because of ref errors, I'd say wait and see. But none of those things are true. This team stinks and couldn't get to 40 points in two seasons, let alone one. And I don't think Khan realizes how long it could take to turn this team's form around.

    Bringing in a new manager is a start, but without new, quality players in key positions, a new manager is just a plaster. We need a new manager, time to scout and buy new players and even more time for those players to settle into the system. In other words, if Khan waits too long, it won't matter who the manager and new players are; turning the team around in mid February might be too late.
     
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  19. Bidley

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    Agree, I'm not big on discussing who our next manager will be while we still have one (who I'll back while he is), but my suggestion would be Di Matteo, despite the Chelsea links.

    Things clearly aren't working as they are, and it just looks like we need a change.
     
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  20. Fulhaman

    Fulhaman Well-Known Member

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    By the way, meant to ask, were you the Fulham fan who came on 606 on saturday night Bidders? The caller was from Cambridgeshire and there can't be too many FFC fans in your neck of the woods. Was driving home in the car at the time and just wondered if it was one of us not606-ers.
     
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