The poor soul's so desperate he'll cling to any crumb that maintains his delusion and he'll ignore the pundits and bits of technology that show the fact Cattermole fouled Elmo right in front of the ref. The technology doesn't show the build up of Cattermole getting frustrated at being totally outclassed which showed the. Malice involved in the tackle.
A foul isn;t an automatic red card! And Brady's was far far more out of control than Cattermole - I don;t think you find a single fan arguing whehter Cattermole's was a foul but it certainly wasn't a red card. I saw 4 fould in the "South Wales Pr4emiership" yesterday which were worse than Cattermoles and onlye one of them got a yellow card... You ride your crest of the wave - for being "outclassed" as you put it - our keeper touched the ball 3 times - and only 2 of them were from shots on target - the other was from an own goal - absolutely oozing class there! Poyet's quote: Poyet prepares appeal after claiming Cattermole's reputation was reason for red By Colin Young PUBLISHED: 23:31, 3 November 2013 | UPDATED: 23:31, 3 November 2013 7 View comments Sunderland are preparing to appeal against Lee Cattermoleâs sending off at Hull City after manager Gus Poyet alleged the former captainâs reputation was behind referee Andre Marrinerâs dismissal. Cattermole was shown the eighth red card of his career for a late off-the-ground tackle on his former Sunderland team-mate Ahmed Elmohamady in Hullâs 1-0 win. He walked before Marriner had even reached for his pocket. Perhaps it was because he knew heâd left Marriner with little choice. Poyet was insistent the red card being held aloft was not down to Cattermoleâs red mist descending but what has preceded such challenges. VIDEO Scroll down to see Gus Poyet question Lee Cattermole's red card Appeal: Gus Poyet is prepapring to appeal against Lee Cattermole's red card after he claimed Andre Marriner was influenced by the midfielder's reputation Reputation: Lee Cattermole picked up the seventh red card of his career for a tackle on Ahmed Elmohamady Influenced? Poyet argued that the tackle didn't merit a red card Poyet, who says he will view the incident again before a final decision on whether to appeal, said: âHe didnât touch him. I thought it was a broken leg and he was going to hospital. He was down for two minutes. âI like Lee how he is but of course itâs dangerous for him because of his reputation. âIt was not his frustration. Heâs Lee Cattermole. If Lee Cattermole is a red, the challenge on Westwood is a red. McShane nearly cut his head off. And the scissor tackle on Johnson is a red. But theyâre not Lee Cattermole. âIâm not happy. Iâm complaining. Iâm an honest person. If I thought Lee was a red card I would tell you. But itâs not.â Absolutely spot on - something I said pre season - people say "he needs to cut out the red cards" but he can't as he's targetted both by opposing cheats (elmohammady) and referees. Steve Bruce asked to never be refereed by Andre Marriner when he was at Sunderland after the Man City debacle when Turner got sent off for winning the ball and getting nutted in the upper arm with no intent. Wonder if Marriner holds that against SAFC instead of Bruce eh?
I think it's fair to say the appeal panel favour the ref, so if they reduce it at all, I'll pop back and offer an unreserved apology to you all.
Laughable isn't it? If it really was what the referee claims then he has to send Brady off for the same thing. Brady was much later, as he had zero chance of getting to the ball and Johnson was sprinting towards goal. Elmo, as usual, was going nowhere. Robbie Brady was the man accused of scything down Johnson in the dying minutes and Poyet had a point. The Irishman was off the ground and caught Johnson in a very similar action to Cattermole’s foul. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...oles-reputation-reason-red.html#ixzz2jfBRZBRR Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
They should have had the same colour card for sure, it'll get one of those frivolous thingy's most likely
I'm not saying a foul's a red card. I'm also not saying he was off the ground and out of control. I can offer you several tackles in our recent games where opposition players have gone in off the ground and taken our players out, so I'm not even saying refs are consistent. I am saying that the ref will have considered earlier actions from Catermole as well as the passage of play that led up to the challenge, (where for a good five minutes Sunderland never came close to touching the ball), and the apparent intent of the clumsy challenge where his boot hit Elmos ankle/shin.
A rather dramatic newspaper quote as more by luck than good judgement, the Sunderland player went over Brady's two footed, off the ground tackle rather than getting 'sythed down'. I also don't think anyone from Hull's would argue we dodged one there, but I think (but don't know) that Cattermole wasn't booked for being off the ground, but for a dirty tackle. That's the mistake Kamara made in my opinion.
You're not right in the head. They show absolutely everything on TV, even things people at the ground never notice. "At least one off the ground tackle." At least one? What a total idiot. I'll leave you to your world of total delusion.
You have an amazing tv if it shows you EVERYTHING. You should market it to the rest of the world. Seemingly it missed the two footed tackle on Huds though. Cattermole walked as soon as he'd done it. I think that in itself says a fair amount.
Mark Lawrenson on Lee Cattermole: He's not unlucky, he's a total and utter liability 04 November 2013 07:00 AM By Mark Lawrenson After yet another sending off for Lee Cattermole, Lawro ask exactly what can Gus Poyet do to stop his key man from losing his head? Seeing red: Lee Cattermole picked up his SEVENTH Premier League red card at the weekend Lee Cattermole is a liability. He has had seven Premier League red cards – five as a Sunderland player in the last three years. Any footballer with a record as shocking as that needs to take a long hard look at himself and ask why. He’s not unlucky. Everybody knows you can’t go in studs first. Everyone knows you can’t go in with your feet off the ground. Everyone knows you can’t even go in with one foot off the ground. Yet Cattermole keeps throwing himself into the kind of challenge that gets him dismissed. Hull boss Steve Bruce – who managed him at Wigan and Sunderland – said that five years ago the challenge that saw him sent off would have only received yellow. But that was five years ago. Not now. I’m sorry, Cattermole is a total and utter liability. To his fans, to his team and to the managers whose plans he has left in tatters with his poor disciplinary record. And it is all such a shame. He played exceptionally well against Newcastle last week. He kept himself within the laws of the game and he was an asset to the team. Gus Poyet will have looked at him and seen him as an absolute must in his team going forward to sit in front of the back four alongside Jack Colback and stop the opposition playing. Then, just when you think he is beginning to ‘get’ it, Cattermole lunges in and gets himself sent off. You can see why Poyet defended him to the media. He has to. He needs him. Where else is he going to get the kind of player – who wants to come to the club – to do the job that Cattermole does? But he cannot keep getting himself sent off. And the only person who can change this is himself. Maybe Poyet should look at a hard-hitting punishment in terms of a fine every time he gets sent off. Maybe he should look at getting a psychologist in to talk to him. In an ideal world Poyet would actually sit down in an office with the Sunderland owner Ellis Short, get Cattermole’s agent in and say to him: “In January you find him another club because I am going to replace him.” How could Cattermole or his agent argue against that? The fortunate thing for him right now is that it won’t happen. He needs to take the opportunity to sort this. And he has to want to sort this. If Sunderland are to have any chance of staying in the Premier League, they are going to need a guy who thinks of himself as an important player in the team to act like one.
He didn't deserve the red for the tackle but he did for his stupidity ...... what on earth will he be thinking this morning? Tackling a player, going nowhere, in the centre circle was ludicrous.
Don't you guys find it weird that two of your players have been dismissed for nasty tackles on ex players? What's up with that? Dossena wasn't there when Elmo or Meyler were Sunderland players, but Catts definitely was.
Just a coincidence i reckon, huddlestone got under catts skin i think, bruce will have known how to push his buttons, no excuse mind
Cattermole got frustrated by City keeping the ball. We were ontop at that point, 1-0 up and Sunderland weren't at their best. You could tell with the amount of running around & chasing the ball, that he'd go in for a challenge like that. Having seen it again, i think he was rash but it's not the worst thing i've seen. Infact, you see regularly. And i agree, Brady should've walked as well. He's similar to Cattermole in that he can lose his head at times, and that was plain daft.
Ok so that picture pretty much confirms why Sunderland are appealing. The tackle doesn't look bad in terms of Elmohamady being hurt, but if you watch the phase of play you can almost see the intent, which is why I think the referee has sent him off. I haven't re-watched match of the day but I knew for certain about 2-3 seconds before the challenge that that point would be where his red was coming, he seems to be frustrated at something and over commits in the challenge. http://www.footytube.com/video/hull-city-v-sunderland-240119?ref=wv_relbox In real time, it looks a very dirty challenge and nobody can argue that it was reckless and it was a booking at the very least, he didn't win the ball (wasn't far off though) and could have achieved the exact same result only to have been booked instead by staying on his feet and shoving Elmohamady off the ball with a shoulder barge. I am not sure which way this appeal will go, but in terms of dangerous tackles, I'd say on reflection Brady should brace himself for a ban assuming the FA have changed the rules as they said they would, I can't see him getting away with that one. The BBC showed a very convincing bit of footage that won't work in Cattermole's favour though. I'm not sure that the FA will look past this evidence of what appears to be studs being planted into the ankle of the Hull player, although I can't see it for the life of me on that video looking at the angle from behind the challenge. The more I see the angle from behind, the more I'm convinced that Elmohammady kicked Catt's boot and that's what BBC showed as the foul. I think Dossena should be deported for his though. Couldn't post the image on this post for some reason so had to do it separately.
You are right it was Catts rep that got him sent off..rather than the tackle. However I presume he knows that, so yet again he sees 'red' after losing a ball and retaliating by getting sent off. Brady's tackle on Johnson was a lot worse! Doss was a stamp..fool
