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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Calamty Jane, Oct 31, 2013.

  1. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    It's an opinion, mate not fact. Based on, well things like this.

    “I definitely felt we were worth a point,” said Bruce.

    “We had a game plan and we stuck to it. We defended well and Tottenham, for all of the quality they’ve got, struggled to break us down.

    “Their only real attempt on goal was the penalty. Steve Harper made a couple of saves that you would expect him to make.

    “We’re disappointed with how it ended, but there were positives to take out of it.

    “To have that penalty decision go against us was very disappointing. There’s nothing we can do about it now, we just have to hope they even themselves out over the season.” Alex Bruce On the league cup exit

    “I’m devastated for the players to have been beaten after putting in a performance like they did,” Steve Bruce on defeat in league to spurs

    “I don’t think we really got going,” said Davies.

    “It felt like we were holding on and then we’d maybe have a two-minute spell where we looked like getting something, then we were back on the back foot again.

    “We huffed and puffed but never really created the chances. Our best chances came from set-pieces and I believe that either me or Abdoulaye should have taken one. Curtis Davis on the everton game.



    Lots of negatives there and I reserve my right to apply logic to form my opinions. It's not like I'm accusing you of trying to put up 'clips' without anything to back it up, is it? <ok>
     
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  2. DMD

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    Had he put 'dissapointed' byt the results perhaps you'd have a point, but none of that shows players that are demoralised by the last four games. The players themselves say it's the opposite.

    You're entitled to your opinions, but you can't have your own facts. The facts say the players aren't demoralised, which was my point and the the one smugsy can't accept he was wrong about.
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

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    So you've been arguing about a point of grammar for two days ......... what a total ****er <doh>

    So you believe everything the players say in the press?

    FFS, what a gullible loon.
     
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    I'm demoralised by every defeat whether it's Premier League, cup or 5 a side with the lads on a Tuesday night.
     
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  5. DMD

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    Nope, that's not even a reasonable wriggle from you. My view on team morale is virtually zero to do with press reports, although they do back up what others are saying.

    I guess that's just two more things you've got wrong, you'll be off into overload soon enough.
     
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  6. Calamty Jane

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    I am less confident now having heard which of our players will not be in.Our defence has handled really good forwards pretty well.I think our forwards will get more chances because you have to win and that will leave gaps behind.
    We will win 1-0 because we have difficulty scoring.I thought Newcastle dominated the 2nd half and looked like they would win.I think Gus has done a good job of bigging up the performance.
    Should be a good game due to both teams needing to win.
    Tell your mate there are deffo no fat lasses in Hull.I should know I have shagged them all(and their mothers)
     
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  7. Calamty Jane

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    I must point out this does not make them slags.
     
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  8. Brian Storm

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    No. Never said the players were demoralised though there is an argument that, they are demoralising results. <doh> There is a negative tone to them quotes which proves what is common sense to see, they've found these defeats disappointing. Disappointment is hardly a positive regarding moral is it? Now about these clips you haven't explained? You asked me to give you something to back up my views to which I have, regardless of weather you're satisfied with it. Now back the ****e you've been spouting.
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

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    And that is a fact.
     
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    So why do you keep saying that your view is based on what the players are saying ........ do they pop round to your house to explain?
     
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    The original argument was created by smugsy, and it's clear from what he put, he thought the team were demoralised. They most certainly, beyond ANY shadow of doubt are the opposite.

    Yep, some were dissapointed with the outcome and some of the decisions, but they are more positive because of it. They more than held their own against some of the best teams in the Country. If anything, Bruce's job will be to drive home the reality that competing well against the top six is no guarantee of anything in the next game, even if it is against a team low on the form table, because we all know it's not going to be easy for either team tomorrow.

    I'm not sure what these 'clips' are that you mention. Smugsy clipped some of the replies so they appeared out of context in an attempt to deflect his poor knowledge. Is that what you mean?


    The funny thing is, it's not even that much of an issue, but in trying to make it look like he wasn't ill-informed, smugsy's dragged this out beyond belief.
     
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    Not MY house no, but it's no big deal to meet players, and even less of a deal to meet people that regularly socialise with the players.
     
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    So they've gained confidence from 4 defeats on the trot? Jesus you're naive. I know they're all larger than life superheroes to you but I'm sorry to burst your star struck bubble but they're human beings. Basic psychology applies to them more than usual because they're in a results based industry. There is no way in a billion years a team would gain confidence form 4 straight defeats. It defies human nature. <doh>

    If it's not an issue why have you jumped on it and dragged it out. It was a conversation between me and Smug yet thought it enough of an issue to be here still on about it at post 71.
     
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    From the Hull Independant forum, commenting on the league cup exit at Spurs,

    "..... Quite demoralising really, given how a virtual second string team had so much of the play ................."

    Case closed.
     
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    So you expect players to say to the media, "We're gutted at that defeat and really down!"

    What a ****ing clown.

    Which players do you meet by the way and it what context?
     
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    It's a question of grammar mate ........ that entitles our dimwitted visitor to suggest I have mental issues apparently.

    What ****ing weird place Hull must be if someone drags this out for days and goes crying to one of our mods <doh>
     
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    Ministers urged to forget about saving 'failing' cities and towns such as Hull, Hartlepool and Burnley
    Ministers have been urged to abandon "failing" cities and towns across the north of England such as Hull, Hartlepool and Burnley and concentrate instead on helping the locals to get jobs elsewhere.

    The Economist magazine said that despite years of Government money and "heroic" efforts the towns were decaying and it was time for a change in policy.
    The globally-respected publication, in an editorial entitled 'City Sicker', said the fate of the once confident places was "sad".
    But it urged ministers to forget about using tax breaks or spending money to encourage people to go the cities and towns as it diverted them from areas where "they would be more successful".
    The Economist cited the example of the Cotswolds, once an industrial engine and now so pretty because "centuries ago, huge numbers of people fled them".
    In a withering verdict, the magazine said: "Despite dollops of public money and years of heroic effort, a string of towns and smallish cities in Britain's former industrial heartlands are quietly decaying.

    "Middlesbrough, Burnley, Hartlepool, Hull and many others were in trouble even before the financial crisis.
    It added: "That so many well intentioned people are trying so hard to save them suggests how much affection they claim.
    "But these kindly efforts are misguided, Governments should not try to rescue failing towns. Instead they should support the people who live in them.
    "That means helping them to commute or move to places where there are jobs - and giving them the skills to get those jobs."
    The Economist argued more money should go in schools in the "urban ghost towns" and the transport network should be upgraded so it's possible to run more regional services to each of them.
    The controversial article comes as Hull bids to be voted the 2017 City of Culture. The city is down to the last four in a race even locals thought they would never win.
    And Burnley two months ago was voted the most enterprising area of the UK for its "pioneering" culture and economic prospects.
    Despite these successes, experts claim the north-south divide is growing with house prices in southern England now more than £100,000 more expensive than those in the north.
    The Economist argued that unemployment rates in the "failing" cities and towns were double the national averge and the high streets are dominated with betting shops and payday lenders. Wolverhampton, it said, was among the worst have "condemned parts of its town centre for a shopping mall that never came".
    It said that in Wolverhampton 22 per cent of the people have no qualifications - and the overall performance of schools in Hull and Hartlepool is "appalling".
    It added: "Even with growth, the most ambitions and best-educated people will still tend to leave places like Hull. Their size, location and demographics means theat they will never offer the sorts of restaurants or shops that the middle classes like."
    Michelle Dewberry, the Hull-born winner of BBC's The Apprentice in 2006, told the Daily Telegraph the article was an "insult".
    She said: "For people to give up on an entire city, it's insulting to the people. We have the BBC there, Siemens, there's lots more investment.
    "The people shouldn't be told to get out but they should be helped, the entrepreneurial spirit should come from within. The city deserves a say when the ambition for it dies."
    A spokesman for Hartlepool County Council added: "We know unemployment is high but there are tremendous amount of positives. We know what the problems are."


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  18. Smug in Boots

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    From the Hull Independant forum, commenting on the league cup exit at Spurs,

    "..... Quite demoralising really, given how a virtual second string team had so much of the play ................."




    From NOT606 Hull Forum,

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    "Feel so sorry for the lads, they put in a great shift and to come out with nothing must be heartbreaking!"

    Case closed you ****ing hypocrite.
     
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  19. DMD

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    You seriously don't know what 'hypocrite' means do you? <laugh>

    Ignoring it being one persons comment, you're posting a different version of the same ill-informed ****e you showed yourself up with in the first place. Having an emotion at the end of a game where the team were close to getting a result against a top class side, is not the same as your claim, which was they'll be despondent for the next game.

    It was bollocks when you first said it, it's still bollocks now. You really are making yourself look a total arsehole over this. Just face facts, you made a ridiculous comment. It can hardly be the first and definitely isn't the last.
     
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  20. DMD

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    Yep, they have gained confidence. The last games were against opposition that were expected to roll right over us, but instead came away full of respect for Hull City after we came close to getting something at each game. It's not just about the final result, that doesn't always tell the full story
     
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