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Meeting with Dr Allam...

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  1. Tobes

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    3rd party 'professional' opinion (whatever that is?) Is irrelevant when compared to the opinion of the man himself;

    "From day one when I took over the club, which was facing a winding-up petition, I said, to the Football Association and the fans, I was doing so as a businessman, that I would be running a business," Allam argues. "Nobody said: 'Go away, we want somebody who runs it as a football club.'

    "As a businessman I am preparing the club to go globally selling merchandise. To do it you want a shorter name, and you drop the words which don't mean anything and are common. Leave it to me; I am the businessman running the club – I cannot afford to run the club by fans' feeling."

    "In a few years many clubs will follow and change their names to something more interesting and I will have proved I am a leader – remember this discussion," Allam predicted. "City, Town, County: these are meaningless. In marketing the shorter the name the more powerful - think of Coca Cola, Twitter, Apple. By next year I will change the name to Hull Tigers



    Whether you think his view is wrong or not, is the issue here.

    However, you're seemingly seeking to add a narrative to his decision, with is nothing more than baseless conjecture.

    Personally, if you think he's dropping the City, as a direct result of his spat with the Council, I think you're way off beam.

    His decision imo, is based on his own view & he's paid for the right to make that decision to boot.
     
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  2. Boothferry2Wembley

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    I don't see any form of control possible on what they discuss, so it is a mute point - they can discuss the ups and downs of Debbie Does Dallas if they wish.


    Not a bad way to go actually, they could also discuss the ins and outs of Debbie does Dallas while they're at it. The end result of the meeting/consultation would still be the same. No happy endings I fear.
     
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  3. Fez

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  4. originallambrettaman

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    Fame at last...

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  5. Amin Yapusi

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    For ****s sake, she's baring a minuscule amount of cleavage and the twats at sky think its more important to cover it with a report about Fridays meeting... Disgraceful.
     
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  6. Fez

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    <laugh>.
     
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  7. djsowtz

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    OLM, you're the perfect candidate for me, even if you have gone off on one sometimes, you have a good perspective on most things. Maybe ask him if he would consider changing his name to "Dr Allam Tiger"?
     
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  8. TONY_WARNERS_FACE.

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    Thank God you're not going.
     
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  9. Tobes

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    Surprisingly I know exactly what constitutes a professional opinion, you never clarified whose opinion & in what context they were sharing it <doh>


    The rest of that is nonsensical hyperbole. You've created a narrative to his decision which has no basis in fact, as you've offered nothing to back it up,
     
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  10. Fez

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    If creating a narrative to his decision is the same as saying I have offered an opinion to his motives, then yes, I have. I have had to offer that opinion based on his illogical statements and previous machinations with HCC. I have done that because there are no facts on the name change - hence the campaign, hence the meeting. Hyperbole is a part of a forum, although mine is supported by some historic actions leading to the stand-off.
     
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    Personally, I don't see the correlation between his spat with HCC & his stated desire to change the branding of the club. As the name change will have zero impact on HCC.

    I think this is just his desire to re-brand his PL 'product. Whether he's right or wrong could only be judged a way down the track, once the impact had been measured

    All I'll say, is that this man has saved Hull City, he's then overseen their revival & helped get their seat back at footballs top table & he's spent a fortune doing so.

    Be careful that you don't end up biting the hand that feeds here. As spreading wild accusations as to his motives, might make the man wonder why the **** he's bothering.....
     
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  12. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    I doubt if the CTWD/forums at Friday's meeting will use that approach, even if many (and many on here) think that is a/the reason.
     
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  13. SuitedandBooted

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    Bore off you tw at
     
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  14. Tobes

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    Great input, matches your avatar.
     
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  15. Fez

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    Changing the name of the club is nothing more than an act of power assertion; AA has been spurned by HCC and he is not used to that. He has invested (some might call it donated - I have ceased to subscribe to that view) quite heavily in winning favour in our City and he is pissed at not having his genius recognised and the keys for the stadium and its development opportunities handed to him on a silver salver. The meeting he has called and the manner of it, is nothing more than him putting all of the key groups on a back foot and showing them that he will have his way - it will also act as a big element of the required consultation process.

    There have been many who have looked at his re-branding plans, his assassination of our identity and his commercial claims and I have not seen one single credible voice of support - not even from within his own camp. Can someone show me one?

    I understand why many are stating their gratitude and support for AA, as, name-change excepted, he has given us a viable club, but it has become increasingly clear that he has served his own purpose in doing so. If he had any intention of changing his business plan, he would not be bothering with this meeting; he wants to hold it as it gives him credibility.
     
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  16. Sir Cheshire Ben

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    Is this opinion Fez or have you some info you'd like to share.
     
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  17. originallambrettaman

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    It doesn't count as any of it, he has to consult with the fans as a whole, not twelve invited guests.
     
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  18. Newland Tiger

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    Are there any actual rules as to what constitutes a consultation with the fans ?
     
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  19. originallambrettaman

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    Not officially, as nobody has ever tried anything this daft before, but we've checked that twelve invited guests definitely doesn't qualify as a 'fan consultation'.
     
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    Hull City fans will this week have the opportunity to meet with the club&#8217;s owner Dr Assem Allam to discuss plans to re-brand the club as &#8216;Hull Tigers.&#8217;

    The invite to speak to Dr Allam on Friday, November 1 was extended to representatives of a variety of fan groups, fanzines and websites.

    Many of these differing groups came together in September to campaign jointly under the name &#8216;City till we die&#8217; (CTWD).

    CTWD, who this week issued a press release, will be formally represented while other members will attend on behalf of their individual groups.

    The campaign launched by CTWD has had a lot of success in a short time. The group have thus far distributed 6,000 badges emblazoned with &#8216;No to Hull Tigers&#8217; along with 18,000 leaflets explaining the group&#8217;s intentions to fellow supporters at recent home games.

    The demand for badges extended worldwide with badges being posted out to Tigers fans as far away as the USA, Australia, Indonesia and Brazil.

    The response to the badges, leaflets and also the scarves the group have had made has been overwhelmingly positive and support has been gathered from wavering fans by stressing that this is a campaign against the decision and not the ownership of the club.

    To his credit, Dr Allam has taken notice of the growing feeling and has arranged a meeting with the fans.

    I asked Amber Nectar co-editor Andy Dalton if he was surprised that the owner had responded so quickly.

    He told me: &#8216;The club&#8217;s acknowledgement of the campaign has been remarkably swift, but that&#8217;s just one way in which it is &#8211; to date &#8211; succeeding.&#8217;

    Dr Allam has previously suggested that you can&#8217;t run a club on the feeling of the fans. So does the group think he will take on board the opposing viewpoint?

    Andy Dalton believes the invitation is a positive step: &#8216;I hope and am confident that Dr Allam will be willing to listen to our arguments. There seems little to be gained in convening a meeting in which a respectful exchange of views is not undertaken.&#8217;

    http://metro.co.uk/2013/10/30/hull-...t-fans-to-discuss-tigers-re-branding-4167046/
     
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