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2013-2014 Loan Watch

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by BCR, Sep 30, 2013.

  1. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

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    Not sure where the original thread went or if there was one.

    Assaidi- Stoke City until May 31, 2014
    Reina- Napoli until May 31, 2014 ( think we can safely say he is doing one to Barca)
    Boroni- Sunderland until May 31, 2014
    Suso- Almeria until May 31, 2014
    Coady- Sheffield United until January 3, 2014
    Adorjan- Groningen until May 31, 2014
    Robinson- Blackpool until May 31,2014
    Ngoo- Yeovil Town until May 31, 2014
    Teixeira- Brentford until January 5, 2014
    Mukendi- Partick Thistle until January 1, 2014


    If you have seen any games or keep up with the players, do share the details of how it is going. I have seen Suso play a few times and man this kid is growing by each game in confidence, ability, athleticism and seems to have his head screwed on right. He is going to be a big player for us next year. I saw Robinson play for Blackpool on Friday and he looked solid, nothing special but his future could hinge on Cissokho.

    Not sure Assaidi or Borini are really going to play that much? Maybe Borini but we will see.
     
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  2. JonnyBaws

    JonnyBaws Well-Known Member

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    Of that lot, I'd expect Suso, Coady, Adorjan and Teixeira to return.
    Pepe (love him), will either stay at Napoli or go to Barca
    Borini will head back to Italy (unless he sets the Premiership alight)
    Assaidi back to Netherlands or Belgium
    Robinson could be used as a make weight for Ince, if we're still in for him.
    Think Ngoo and Mukendi may be sent back out on loan or sold too..
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    there is a pretty good thread using the lfc loan watch as a basis that pops up. someone else can find it ;)

    in short....

    assaidi should have been buried and the insurance on him collected... total waste of cash.

    Borini will go some to get a game at sunderland. I cannot see it with altidore and Fletcher there... again should have sold him back to lazio

    Reina will put us to shame and win a league medal this year.

    Suso is lighting up the lower part of the la liga table, only time will tell how he does when the bigger teams clock him.

    Coady is now not on the bench for shff utd but did start the seaosn in thier team. worrying

    Adorjan seems to be enjoying his move but i feel its one to sell him not improve him.

    robinson is a fixture for blackpool and they are going ok so that is good for him.

    N'goo is coming on as sub so he's not making much impact yet.

    Teixteria is on the bench at brentford so he needs to get a shift on and prove himself.

    Mukendi? who cares? sorry lad but seriously... he was never a top youth IMO
     
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  4. BCR

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    I actually quite like Ngoo but just don't think there is a place for him here at the moment. I will say in the Blackpool x Huddersfield game I watched, Ince looked like the only player who could unlock the defense with a bit of creativity and ingenuity. All depends on the price of him though and we already have Sterling, Ibe here.
     
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  5. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    N'Goo is quaality. But doesnt fit our style of play.

    Suso is the one to watch and the one who is earning the compliments.
     
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  6. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

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    Seriously watch the league!!!!!!

    [video=youtube;w2wawmvSuqY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2wawmvSuqY[/video]

    1:20 where he mugs off 3 Barca players, think that is the opposite of the big boys clocking him. Thoroughly annoyed by that MITO. He has already played against Villareal who are back in business, Atleti Madrid, and now Barca.
     
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  7. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

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    Its good to see him tracking back and going in to challenges.
     
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  8. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

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    and is strong when the ball is in the air. Obviously this vid shows some flaws as well which is fine but overall impressed with going against one of the best teams in the world and not shying away from the challenge...
     
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  9. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Agree with Bluff - I think MITO is seriously underestimating the quality of the league. I think his opinion may be based on the fact that Aspas did so well in La Liga but looks awful in PL?
     
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  10. InBiscanWeTrust

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    The clip of Suso still shows some weaknesses, such as trying to do too much and giving the ball away a lot, but showed glimpses of quality. Looks like he could become a very good player and the best thing for him was to go and get regular football on a top division.

    I feel that Sterling should have done exactly the same, and it'll be interesting to see which one of those 2 next year pushes on more.
     
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  11. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    I don't know if it's just me but everyone talks about Sterling's speed and pace but I rarely see him run WITH the ball that quickly. Moses and Sturridge have great acceleration with the ball and can easily beat players but when Sterling has the ball, he slows down and doesn't use that acceleration and speed.
     
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  12. Assaidi played well the other night. He took a few players on a couple of times but I wasn't having any of it #cruchedhim #fifa
     
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  13. BCR

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    [video=youtube;u3Bsi7on8b8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3Bsi7on8b8[/video]
     
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  14. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Borini scored the winner against Newcastle today, cracking finish :bandit:
     
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  15. Magic Ted

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    Real Sociedad v Almeria is on Sky Sports 1 in 10 minutes if you fancy watching a bit of Suso. <ok>
     
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  16. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Which bit of him are you going to watch? I was planning on watching all of him... :bandit:
     
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  17. Redbrynner

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    Unfortunately Suso has a stomach bug, and is not playing
     
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  18. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

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    Coutinho v Suso in stats (This season)

    Appearances

    Suso has started eight matches for Almeria this season compared to Coutinho&#8217;s four starts for Liverpool.

    Coutinho would have undoubtedly started more were it not for the shoulder injury he picked up during the match away at Swansea City but in terms of effect, it shows that Suso has been playing consistently.

    Passing

    Coutinho is slightly ahead in terms of passing success with an average of 78.5% from league matches this season compared to the 76.2% figure Suso is currently boasting.

    Coutinho is also ahead in terms of key passes per game and number of passes per game but Suso is way out in front in terms of long balls with 1.6 per match compared to 0.8.

    That doesn&#8217;t really tell us anything we didn&#8217;t already know and is muted by the fact Liverpool are not a long ball team.

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    Defence

    In terms of defensive stats, there isn&#8217;t really anything between them with Coutinho making 0.5 more tackles per game and giving away a slightly smaller percentage in terms of fouls.

    However, Suso is showing a good ability to read the game and is registering 0.6 interceptions per match while Coutinho is yet to make a single interception this season.

    Suso is more effective when players square up to him and dribble at him, with just 1.4 dribbles beating him compared to two per game with Coutinho.

    Attack

    The interesting stats come in terms of attacking play this season with Suso ahead of Coutinho in several areas. However, you have to take the numbers with a pinch of salt as he&#8217;s played twice the number of games.

    Suso has a goal and three assists from his appearances this season while Coutinho is yet to register in either column. He&#8217;s also making more dribbles at the opposition defence and is dispossessed fewer times on average.

    Where Coutinho is ahead in terms of attacking play is with passing and his ability to draw fouls. Coutinho is drawing twice as many fouls in the opponent&#8217;s final third, which allows influential players like Steven Gerrard and Luis Suarez to take advantage of dead ball situations.

    See also: Five facts about Liverpool's 'New Bale' wonderkid Harry Wilson

    Discipline

    Coutinho also seems to be a far more disciplined player than the Spaniard who has already been booked four times this season.

    Brendan Rodgers has admitted he still doesn&#8217;t think the current Liverpool squad is large enough, which means he&#8217;s not going to look favourably at players who show a tendency to be a bit reckless, subsequently getting themselves suspended.

    Coutinho hasn&#8217;t been booked yet this season, which means he&#8217;s reliable and it&#8217;s also a tribute to his decision making.

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    Obviously you have to consider the different leagues and that fact that Coutinho is in a more physical league.
     
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  19. Magic Ted

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    Upper-leg. :bandit:
     
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  20. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    With a stomach bug I hope it's not his rear end <yikes>
     
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