OT - Über's Open Debate Thread

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Nice one, Soops. I like Mitchell and Webb. This is a particularly favourite sketch (although there are many that cause the corners of my mouth to rise slightly)...

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Rowly Birkin.....if I continue punishing the port I'll be there soon. Little brother is also working with Paul Whitehouse at the moment, not sure on what. When asked if he wanted a writer or would script himself, Whitehouse's response was 'I don't even write my own texts nowadays mate'. Said with a big grin.

I have been bullied by my daughter into the Movember thing this year. To a huge cheer from my son and groans from my wife I am going for the full Flashy chops. Which as a six foot 1 ginger may be slightly overpowering.

I'm nowhere near as right on as sometimes I appear on here in real life. Just like a bit of light and shade occassionally.

 

Nice duck out

Im fine and you haven't replied..just like old times mate

not that bothered TBh but a bit disrespectful generalizing my relations like that.

i wont take offence, but god help you if you evr meet my cousin!!

 

Oh ****, you never said you were a ginger! And you let me befriend you...

 

Strawberry blonde if that's more to your taste Ubes. I'd be inerested to get Flyer's views on the threat from the League of Red Headed Gentlemen. Our influence is far reaching...

 

I'm rapidly heading for full Arctic blond myself.

 

He doesn't like it when he's contradicted with cogent arguments Queens. Just ignores it and keeps going. It's very hurtful, but I'll still soldier on whenever he posts bollocks. It's my civic duty. And I enjoy it.

 

I fully believe that two planes flew into the towers I am not convinced that anyone was on them I am convinced however that 35 billion pounds of gold was removed from under tower 2 prior to the theatre I do not nor will I believe that two towers could fall that way without some control

no blood at all at the plane crash and the evidence about the plane flying into the pentagon is not possible

Like WMD it washes over us and nothing is done

 

Trouble is Dave WMD was proven to be bollocks through decent journalism and a democratic process very quickly. I haven't seen anything backing up the 9/11 conspiracy stuff from a reputable source. I watched the documentary you posted and feel very much like Col. If you are predisposed to doubt everything from normal sources, you will always find something to doubt. You simply could not cover up a conspiracy like this, directly involving hundreds if not thousands of people who need to keep their mouths shut for the rest of their lives.

A basic question - if for some reason, elements within the US government planned and executed these attacks, then coerced the rest of the government to cover it up - why pick so many targets, when hitting one high profile target would have achieved exactly the same aim? Though I'm still not sure what the conspiracy theorists think the objective of the conspiracy was - I know flyer thinks it was to introduce surveillance to invade his privacy, what about you?

 

Exactly!

Dave............if no one was on the planes, where are all these people? All the calls to loved ones were faked then? The plane that brave passengers forced to crash instead of reaching its target.....................that didn't happen either then? Those calls were all faked? Ridiculous!!
Like I said, it's less of a leap to believe there's a God with a long white beard, sat on a cloud!!

 

Do you think its possible they could have let it happen or possibly done it themselves in order to get the public onside for a war?

Consider that they have admitted they wanted to kill their own people in the past in order to start a war before JFK said no.

 

THEY DIDN'T KILL THEIR OWN PEOPLE THOUGH DID THEY! Even 50 years ago. ****ing irritating things facts.

In the avalanche of stuff direct from the Pentagon and US Secret Service on WikiLeaks, there is nothing backing up the 9/11 conspiracy myth. Even Julian Assange ( what a creepy weirdo he is) is irritated by 9/11 conspiracies because he thinks they detract from 'real' conspiracies. Unless you think that a man who has hidden in the Ecuadorean embassy for ages on the pretense that he is afraid to be tried for sexual assault in Sweden because the Swedes (the bloody Swedes!) will extradite him to the US where he will be tortured, is in fact working for the US Secret Service agencies.

 

Saved me the bother!!
So were they remote control planes? Surely the cabin crew would have had to be in on it then? Presumably they didn't mind dying? Otherwise flyer, do you think they got some brave US souls to purposely fly into buildings?
It's all so ridiculous and just doesn't stack up. Think about what you're suggesting. Think about how difficult it would have been to pull off. THINK FFS!!

It was suggested, BY SOME as a possibility, BUT THEY DIDN'T DO IT!!

 

It is possible they were remote controlled, that is all Im saying. The cabin crew doesnt come into it. They may not have even been alive before they hit.

It is possible they knew it was going to happen but did nothing about it and then used it to implement a surveillance state and start wars?
Yes or no.
Youve refused to answer that several times now.

 

I'm sure Col will respond, which is just as well as you are ignoring me.

Yes its possible. But is it probable, or likely. Of course not.

Let's list some other things that are 'possible' but not 'probable'.

- the Da Vinci Code is literally true, and the direct descendant of Christ lives in France
- the lizard king is here and occupying the body of Harold Redknapp
- the economic collapse was engineered by a secret cabal for some reason or another
- you will ever, on any subject, admit to fallibility

 

Is it just me or is Flyer completely ignoring Stan's arguments?

And if he is, is it because he can't debunk them?

 

I think he's got me on ignore, but he won't admit it because its a badge of pride for him to only have you on ignore! No matter, I'm still enjoying myself.

 

He's got me on ignore????

 

Yes it's possible..................but so improbable that it deserves complete ridicule.
So now you're saying that the cabin crew could have been killed before the planes hit? So were US secret agents pretending to be the hijackers then? Although, there would have been no need to kill the cabin crew, or even bother to pretend to hijack the plane if it was all done by remote control. The planes would have simply been re-directed to their targets. But surely the passengers would have wondered why there was nothing coming from the pilots? Or the cabin crew would have wondered why they couldn't speak to the pilots?
Do you see how preposterous it all is?
I know you will never back down on anything, but bloody hell. You are sounding deranged!!

Of course you now seem to be saying that it was all done by terrorists..........but that the US knew it was going to happen and just let it continue. So if that's what you believe you obviously can't agree with that "loose change" crap?