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Horse puncher gets jail

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by C19RK73, Oct 24, 2013.

  1. Durham Stag

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    It''s harsh IN COMPARISON TO OTHER CRIMES THAT GET NO JAIL TIME. As I stated, my friend was assaulted and the lad who did it got a warning. Why is a polcie officer more important than a 15 year old lad? Oh and also, police officer? Get a grip pal, IT WAS A ****ING HORSE. It won't have felt a thing.
     
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  2. Durham Stag

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    As far as I'm aware he was not charged with any offence other than the actual assault, so you are wrong to bring all of that other stuff up.

    Again, I'll say. He deserves everything he gets. It is just disgusting that the sentence has unquestionably been influenced by media coverage,a s other worse offences get far more lenient penalties.
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Don't be daft, it's all part of the mitigating or incriminating circumstances.

    If he'd slapped a police horse, in a field, completely out of the blue the police would've told him to '**** off' before he got one back.

    Of course the events of the day have a bearing, it was serious disorder.

    Dear me <doh>

    The media have **** all to do with it ........... why do people always trot that ****e out in every case?

    The magistrates have a duty to back the police when they come under attacks.
     
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  4. grandpops

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    Disagree mate. imo it`s the other sentences which are pathetic.
     
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  5. Durham Stag

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    Fair enough, you're clearly wearing ya red and white specs so not going to look at the case fairly and in comparison with other similar ones which is fair enough I guess, but I'll not waste any more time on ya <ok>

    Enjoy your cheap laughs.
     
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  6. Durham Stag

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    You're spot on mate I agree with you. This is the one case that breaks the norm though, which is why I say it's harsh. In reality, you are right, the whole criminal system needs overhauling so that there are harsher penalties.
     
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  7. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    What a knacker, you're totally ignoring the circumstances of the day, serious disorder and rioting, and comparing it to a few daft lads clipping each other in the street.
     
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  8. MackemsRule

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    You can't defend this individual full stop mate.
    I know about people who get DLA and work, have a mate does just that. <ok>
    But!
    He doesn't come out on the drink with us any more as he can't cope.
    I know other people in similar situations, cabined up 24 hours a day and they can't get it as they don't know how to play the system.


    From the governments own site.

    3. Eligibility

    Usually, to qualify for Disability Living Allowance for adults you must:
    • be aged 16 to 64 (on 8 April 2013)
    • have made your claim before 10 June 2013
    • need help looking after yourself and or have walking dif&#64257;culties (see below)
    You must tell DWP if your circumstances change eg, your condition improves or you need more help.
    Your disability or health condition

    Your disability or health condition must mean one or both of the following are true:
    • you need help looking after yourself
    • you have walking difficulties
    You must have had these difficulties for at least 3 months and expect them to last for at least 6 months. If you’re terminally ill (ie not expected to live more than 6 months), you don’t need to have had these difficulties for 3 months.



    The horse puncher clearly doesn't fit any of the criteria mentioned..
    He is quite clearly a benefits cheat, who I hope will be done for that too.
    Some one on here was bragging about going to the match in a brand new Motability car that wasn't even his ffs!
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    "When I was about 15 me and my mates were walking down the town centre, when some 19/20 year old lads jumped us. I got hit once, wasn't badly hurt." <doh>

    This was a direct attack on the police, if you can't see the difference there's no hope for you.
     
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  10. Brian Storm

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    Before telling me to get a grip go and check the law cause you're making a fool of yourself.
     
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  11. Smug in Boots

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    I suspect he'll continue to do so ................ he seems to have no grasp on the law yet speaks as if he has.
    He possibly doesn't understand that the police treat dogs & horses as their own.

    BTW, still nowt on the 'Geordie Nation' board ........
     
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  12. Brian Storm

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    <laugh> You didn't need to do that fella. When I said i wasn't defending him, I wasn't in anyway, just went a bit off topic and meant it to be unrelated to that munter. <ok> I'm in receipt of DLA myself. I don't meet that criteria as that's for physical restrictions, mine is mental health and a complete grey area. It's a propper nightmare. Any way, I'm drifting off topic again. :)
     
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  13. Durham Stag

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    My mate had to go to hospital. Listen I'm not defending this twat. I'm just saying that the penalty is so far out of proportion with other similar crimes, simply because of the media coverage, it's obscene.
     
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  14. Durham Stag

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    Ok mate. Why don't you open a fund for the the horse, start a hashtag on Twitter or something #PrayForHooves , the poor thing.
     
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  15. MackemsRule

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    Not sure how long ago you're talking mate .
    But the law has changed a lot in recent times regarding assault and the severity of the assault.

    I'm betting the court took into consideration (after ignoring his bullshit defence.) what could have happened to the horse and rider and not just what did happen.
    The video evidence clearly showed him as an instigator and not an innocent caught up in the violence.
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

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    But you're not comparing it to 'similar crimes' which is where you're going wrong.

    This was an attack on the police during a riot.
     
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  17. Durham Stag

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    Suppose so I guess I wasn't in court so don't know actually what the prosecutor's said...I'd argue that a punch on a horse isn't likely to do any harm to anyone, apart from the knacker's knuckles...although he didn't seem like he was going to stop until the other officer's took him down <laugh>
     
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  18. MackemsRule

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    Best if I don't make a crack about the horse punchers mental health then eh?

    Hahaha
     
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  19. Smug in Boots

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    Exactly.

    He was at the forefront of a serious confrontation with the police and, as such, was inciting and encouraging violence.

    The court would've taken that into consideration when handing out the sentence.

    I believe half a dozen other Newcastle supporters were also jailed today which confirms the seriousness of the situation.

    Durham Stag seems to be ignoring that.
     
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  20. Durham Stag

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    I see where you're coming from but at the end of the day it was 1 punch, not on a human being. I'd always put that below any attack on a human, but that's just me. His defence did say he had not been involved in the throwing of any missiles, any attacks on opposing fans etc etc, but I accept he was a part of the mob.
     
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