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Sunderland: Are the Fans the Problem?

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by C19RK73, Oct 22, 2013.

  1. bonnybobbypark

    bonnybobbypark Well-Known Member

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    RAW. I wish we had one or two of that team in this one.

    Bennett / Armstrong ?

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  2. MrRAWhite

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    If you its ok to go to have the quietest 40,000 crowds in footballing history then that is your prerogative, but it certainly doesn't mean that I will ever agree with you...I go to games to put the effort in to vocally back the club I love, because that is what I believe being a supporter is all about regardless how ****e the team is..
     
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  3. MrRAWhite

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    Armstrong used to get loads of stick from a lot of our fans, but his goal against Chelsea in the League Cup will always live in my memory..
     
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  4. CyprusMackem

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    I believe if you pay you can do what you like. If you want fans to sing when the players don't give a **** fair play.
     
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  5. NOFUSSWITHGUS

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    How do you know we got the quiestest 40,000 crowds then? do you know sunderland still has the loudest fans on record.
     
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  6. MrRAWhite

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    To say that Sunderland have had the loudest fans on record is subjective to say the least, although in the past I have burst with pride at the noise levels we have created in the face of adversity..These days, the only chanting you hear at the SoL is the away fans telling us how **** our support is..It's a bloody embarrassment regardless how crap the team is..
     
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  7. NOFUSSWITHGUS

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    It's still not been broke tho. I agree the noise levels aren't as good as before but most stadiums are very quite these days. where do you sit? you should try & get the people around you to join in.
     
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  10. CyprusMackem

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    God how embarrassed I am to support a team that can only pull in 40,000 (****e fans. Your words) . In a region blighted by unemployment.
    Shocking for a squad that gives so much for so many years. Like I said before when the club. Sorry/ if the club ever out perform the fans I'll eat my words.
    Anyone see top six anytime soon? Championship doesn't count.
     
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  11. MrRAWhite

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    The numbers turning up are great, but it is an embarrassment that a few hundred away fans can make more noise than 40,000 plus of us..I go to games to try and make a positive difference by vocally supporting the club I love, and hate how quiet the ground is these days..
    Of course it would be a better atmosphere if the team was doing well as it is easy to support a winning side, but I back the side for 90 minutes regardless. After all, we moan if the players don't put the effort it, and for it's the same regarding the fans...After all, it's our club and still will be long after these players have hung up their boots..
     
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  12. concrete tony

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    What a crock of ****e that article was, blatantly a mag on a wind up (people in glass houses springs to mind)

    I'm going to stick up for the quiet fan here. Why should you pay £30 to put in all the effort? Just how much does a crowd affect a game? Fans are encouraged to behave and sit down anything rowdy can result in arrest. Bring back standing and you'll see a massive difference.

    We now have had a generation grow up without ever experiencing standing. The great thing about standing was that if you wanted to be where the singers were you could shuffle over. You can't do that with seats.

    Returning to the article, whoever wrote that they should be ashamed.
     
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  13. MrRAWhite

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    I'm in the minority in vocally backing the team in the stadium, so I'm not surprised that it is the same on here..I still find it a crying shame though..
     
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  14. Rick O'Shea

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    Its about time poeple have woken up to certain people who are slating fellow fans.
     
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  15. monty987

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    Bully the players !, if I put a shift in like they have I would get sent to Coventry and deserve it (mind you they are picking up points now !) Cattermole should be shouting and balling at them defenders in training, telling them to not give the mags an inch on sunday, get in and nick the ball of them, and run at their defence. Hopefully Brown, Ji, Cabral, Mavras, Diakite and Karlsson will come in, But O Shea says we have to be stronger but will he be playing on sunday ?.
     
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  16. MrRAWhite

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    If you think of my arguments as slating fellow fans then I believe it is you who have a problem..
    I'm trying to encourage supporters to back the team in times of adversity..
     
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  17. Rick O'Shea

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    How? By telling them they are the worst in the league?
     
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  18. MrRAWhite

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    The atmosphere at home games for quite some time now has been extremely negative to put it mildly, which in my opinion does not help what is already a dire situation..if you think it is fine for supporters to sit on their hands with gob firmly shut at games, then it's your prerogative, but i certainly do not and will argue my case..
     
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  19. Brian Storm

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    Given our form and the home operation since Fulham it's understandable that fans will come in with a defeatist attitude.

    We're only human, slaves to the psyche. But as morale driven as we are we have that ability to come together when it really matters. I think we'll show that on Sunday.
     
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  20. Rick O'Shea

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    Hmmm, so the players need the encouragement of the fans on top of the thousands they earn each week, while the fans are expected to give it despite paying a huge percentage of their incomes just to get the games.

    Fans don't win football matches, players do. As a fan, I will cheer when the team both deserves and requires it. As a fan, I will boo/jeer/be silent when the team both deserves and requires it. The players are there for us, the fans. Not the other way round, though I feel some people seem to not realise this. As a human, I will do as I feel, whatever that may be.

    If you want to improve the atmosphere constant sniping at fellow fans is certainly not the way to go about it. In fact it would only go to reinforce my 'negative' attitude.
     
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