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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by ShelfSideSpur, Jan 27, 2011.

  1. Boss

    Boss Son of Pulis

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    Just had a quick look at dortmunds recent games as I haven't had a chance to see them in action as much as I would like but they play their usual 4231 and as usual reus is left wing, that's his best position.
     
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  2. notsosmartspur

    notsosmartspur Well-Known Member

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    Mourinho puts the Bundesliga v PL to bed...Bundesliga stronger than the PL?..."no, (and he said 'no' almost laughing at the ridiculousness of the question) not by a long way", like Spain, 2 big teams, then a couple of good ones, and that is all. He finished with "the Premier League is the premier league".

    Chelsea fans should listen to there manager.
     
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    Overall our league is better, definitely agree yet Germans national team puts us to shame and dortmund and bayern are at a another level, it's embarrassing watch us try play football when you see how Zee Germans do it!

    But in terms of which league is better overall, then we're definitely a stronger league.
     
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    I think that's the problem with our national side, the heart of the Spanish and German sides play together every week. Our lot are strangers.
     
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  5. The RDBD

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    You have to consider various aspects of a league.
    The competitive nature, the average technical ability of players across the clubs etc.

    The PL is so much better on the former.
    But Spain/Germany much better on the latter (and it shows so obviously at the
    UEFA and international levels) .
     
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    That's a good point, Spain and Germany have two teams who will always be winning the league (expect for the odd year).

    Over here it varies between man Utd, man City, Chelsea and Arsenal plus you have us, Liverpool and Everton trying to push higher.

    In Spain it's virtually always Barca and Madrid and in Germany it's bayern and dortmund now.

    Most of the national teams core play for them two teams in each country.

    So like you say with us its like a bunch of strangers turning up to try and play as a team.
     
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    Plus in Germany and Spain there youth coaching is on a different level. Who's going to change how our youth players learn to play football? Trevor Brooking? Does anyone at the FA actually care about the system in place?

    I know Hoddle was hired recently, he should be put in charge of all youth development and coaches.
     
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  8. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    "Who's going to change how our youth players learn to play football?"

    Club academies will have to take up the challenge on that one.
    And the lower league clubs.

    On the latter we are seeing some progress IMHO.
    A lot of the recently promoted clubs to the PL who haven't been there for
    a while, are actually trying to play football the right way. So perhaps the
    classic physical/hoofball game will wither away from the top flight.
     
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    Yeah club academics will need to invest in change but as club football in this country at youth level is still heavily focused on results rather then technical ability then surely national coaching must also be involved.

    National run camps arranged by someone like Hoddle for kids over 10 would surely help show kids to focus more on their technical game even at a young age.
     
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    I was trying to find an article on how Germany changed its national team.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...raphael_honigstein/07/01/germany.reinvention/

    It mentions this:


    The German FA realized that something had to be done. It
    looked at the French system and decided that something similar
    was needed. In May 1999, FA vice president Beckenbauer, first-
    team manager Ribbeck, Bayer Leverkusen general manager
    Reiner Calmund and FA Director of Youth Development Dietrich
    Weise presented a new concept for producing young German
    footballers. All across the country, 121 national talent centers
    would be built to help 10- to 17-year-olds with technical
    practice. Each center would employ two full-time coaches at a
    cost of $15.6 million over five years. The second key point was
    a new requirement for all 36 professional clubs in Bundesliga
    and Bundesliga 2 to build youth academies.
    "If this concept works, we will see a lot of youngsters get into
    Bundesliga clubs in the coming years," Weise said.



    It clearly works and that's what we should be doing instead of spending millions on managers like sven and capello.
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    Allegedly the display at Euro 2000 was the final nail in the coffin,
    and the German FA decided a root and branch reform was necessary.
     
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    Unfortunately I can't see us looking back in 14 years time and talking about the crucial moment when Danny Mills and Rio came up with a plan that was pivotal to the development of our players across the country.
     
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    LOL put Hoddle in charge and let him implement a system, and we may produce players that are known for being great technically rather then missing a drugs test.
     
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    Or Danny Mills who is known for... erm... what exactly?

    Bang average player and bang average pundit, the mind boggles.
     
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    I thought YV had just picked the most pointless and unimaginative footballer he could think of, just to make a joke.

    Just went on to Google, typed '' Danny Mills ''.

    Now I'm left lost for words!!
     
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    ...their success dependant on how good the foreigners are they've bought, also how many.
     
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    I think youth teams should have "footballers" teaching them the basics.I don't want someone who insists on "Ok lads.I want you to run 6 times round the track to get you fit!"They should already be fit or they wouldn't be playing for big clubs.Give 'em a ball each and teach them the art....
    I remember one of the reasons Blanchflower came to Tottenham because of their reputation as a ball playing club and had a ball each in practice.Apparently Aston Villa didn't believe in that sort of thing!
     
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    It's because the coaches here are obssed with running,instead of ball retension and skill
     
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  20. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    50k, 70k, 100k, I don't care as long as we just build the damn thing!

    The travelling Yanks are going to come in for a bit of a shock heading through Tottenham to the ground though :D
     
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