About time, really need him to get minutes so he can be ready for next season. It will be big seasons for him, Suso, and Sterling.
Let's hope he doesn't rot on their bench and actually gets some game time. Would rather of seen him go to a Premier League team, maybe Palace or Hull.
I hope he does well. rodgers clearly doesn't trust him to play rb so i think he needs to go and get into that side. he's got to prove a point and not do an n'goo or coady here.
The lad's already played a fair few games for us and didn't look out of place physically or technically - just needs more experience at PL level. Not really sure what good a loan to Derby will do for him.
True but one area where he is lacking is positional sense, game intelligence, tactical awareness. RB is not a natural position for him so it's understandable - but the lad needs regular action at a decent level rather than just playing for the u21's. It will be interesting to see how Derby us him - CB or RB.
I'm probably a lone )) voice in this but I've always had reservations about the loan system. I can't remember when it was introduced but I'm old enough to remember a time when it didn't happen. If you loan a player to another club you need to know that they are going to get the type of coaching that's consistent with your own style of play so the experience is useful and they're not coming back with "bad" habits. I'm not sure clubs attach enough importance to this (I've no idea whether McLaren's Derby are right for our players or not, btw). Loaning to a PL club makes no sense at all to me unless the parent club is sure that the loanee club is no threat to them, but then, do you really want to lend your player to a club that isn't good enough? I simply don't understand lending a player to a rival. I'm bemused by Chelsea's decision to loan players to Everton and Liverpool unless they believe neither of us will trouble the area of the league that they expect to end up in. This seems arrogant to me and I hope we can make it backfire on them. I realise times have changed, we have much bigger squads now and it's not best to have players on the brink of first team level sitting on their bums, but I'd prefer to see them go to a foreign club perhaps, with a philosophy that we feel sure they'll benefit from. The other time it's useful, of course, is if you're looking to eventually offload the player and a loan can help with that.
Well it is a point. Teixteria basically wasted his time at brentford for a month. now why i don't know but was it him or the club or what I am not close enough to it. Taking a player like him out of a world class set up like we have in terms of pampering and experience and putting them into a really small time set up.. best thing i nthe world for 12 months? not sure. 18 year old for a month... not bad IMO. I get what you are saying abou the bad habits. I think that's why some clubs do a feeder club thing with a formal deal. (roal antwerp was one yeah, utd?) I think the "b" team concept must come back up here and be raised as this addresses all of these issues. I think for chelsea? mostly players are simply unwanted. they are chucked out to maintain value. Lukaku was shovelled out and will be sold for 25mil potentially. moses... 10? maybe... hope no more cos he doesn't look worth it to me. I think a welbeck or a cmapbell would be a better example where a player is a reserve so not integrated yet into your set up. they come back and need to then be integrated in anyway but have 30 games of expereicne in. Now.... suso. this is unproven but his loan could set him up to be a huge player for us. by contrast send a player like coady out and he sit son a bench for sheff utd.... and thats not good. I do not know what the right answer is but with the conveyor belt we have of players of a certain level we need to move them on. loans allow that at least. I don't know. when you get to 19-20 you either get old for nothing, loaned to build value or promoted to the seniors. hmmmmmmmm.... think about teixteria. not up to seniors, not up to brentford, are we getting worried? I think so.
What if they don't believe that both us and Everton will challenge BUT they do believe that these players moving to us will help to take points off what they deem to be their rivals? Moses and Lakaku can't play againt Chelsea but they can play against everyone else.
its good for wisdom if he plays simple as that as he is young and the more games he plays the more experience he gains.. even at a lower level imo I'd be unhappy if we paid more than 6/8m for Moses if that is even an option (I hope not as we could do better and should aim for better players than moses, not bashing him just don't think he's good enough to be 1st team.
i agree with this. its about right as i thought chelsea over paid for him and i just never got why they even wanted him at all.
Means a club could but a quality squad of forty to fifty players and loan a lot out to teams in the same division in the hope it effect your rivals. IMO, that is wrong. Lakaku could well be the difference for Everton's end league position, but he could also be the difference in the games against Man City, Arsenal, Man Utd, Spurs and us. He is perfect for counter-attacking football too so is likely to make an impact in these games. Sadly, I don't see Moses doing the same.
I think tobes is right that he will be the one thing that they have done that really will change things. I also agree that i do not see moses as being anyhting special and would rather see a front 3 of coutinho suarez and sturridge asap.
