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Not606 2013 Indian Grand Prix Race thread

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by El_Bando, Oct 21, 2013.

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Who will Vettel this one?

Poll closed Oct 25, 2013.
  1. Sebastian Vettel @1/100 (Vettel)

    74.1%
  2. Sebastian Vettels chief Rival (Alonso)

    7.4%
  3. The person Seb Vettel wishes he was (Raikkonen)

    3.7%
  4. Last person to beat Vettel (Hamilton)

    7.4%
  5. Sebastian Vettel's #2 (Webber)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. the other German winner who is not Vettel (Rosberg)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Has never met Vettel (Massa)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Nearly beat Vettel last time (Grosjean)

    3.7%
  9. Last non Vettel WDC (Button)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Keeping us entertained while Vettel wins (Hulkenberg)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. Another Vettel

    3.7%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I? Forum Moderator

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    Practice sessions, qualifying and the race are live on BBC & Sky Sports F1.

    Past Winners:
    Vettel (2)

    Last year:
    Pole - Vettel
    Winner - Vettel
    Fastest lap - Button

    Friday
    05.25 BBC2 - Practice 1
    09.25 BBC2 - Practice 2

    Saturday
    06.25 BBC2 - Practice 3
    08.30 BBC1 - Qualifying
    13.00 BBC1 - Qualifying Highlights

    Sunday
    08.30 BBC1 - Race
    14.00 BBC1 - Race Highlights

    PREDICTION LEAGUE:

    x9
    tomcat606

    x8
    miggins

    x7
    RoadRunner

    x5
    maxwhiplash (Hippo Bulkenberg)
    Paco Montoya
    TomTom94 v2.4 (beta)

    zer0

    x4
    diresta is faster than u
    BrightLampShade
    El_Bando
    jonnybaws

    julius Caesar
    The Iceman
    westcoastboogaloo


    x3
    di fredsta
    <[O__o]>
    thistle21
    DHCanary

    x2
    Forza Bianchi
    allsaintschris
    justjazz
    stephen licorish
    StoneRosesRam

    x1
    leucadendron54
    AbsolutelyGlorious
    sportydan
    drudeboy
    happyal
    jackjeffries
    schneiderlin is the goal king
    marklarmergerbilfarmer
    pit lane charlie
    smithers
    Ajay Fernando
    I'm Batman
    smhbcfc
    Believe In Lewis
    Kyle (Hans Gruber)
     
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  2. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I've gone for the long shot that is Vettel.

    He's out of form, in a poor car, and at a track he clearly dislikes. That said I think he has a chance of winning this weekend <ok>
     
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  3. u408379965

    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the poll should be for who comes second, with an option for a non-Vettel winner.
     
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  4. Smithers

    Smithers Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    My protest vote is Kimi - AGAIN!

    I just think that he needs a strong end to the season to put the pressure on Alonso for next year and I would love Lotus to snatch 2nd in the WCC from under Ferrari & Merc's noses! The crash kid and the oldey who cant be arsed beating the likes of Alonso & Lewis in two mega teams would be an interesting end to an otherwise dull season.
     
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  5. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I? Forum Moderator

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    out of anybody to challenge Red Bull it would be Lotus. but with development pretty much seized this year for 2014. can they close the gap?
     
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  6. StoneRosesRam

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    Kimi is out of sorts at the moment particularly in Qualifying, if anyone is going to challenge Vettel it would be Grosjean again unless Kimi sorts out his Qualifying issues.
     
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  7. Di Resta is faster than u

    Di Resta is faster than u Active Member

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    Here's a clue, it won't be Bottas!
     
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  8. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    Norbert Vettel's race to lose!
     
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  9. Han Shot First

    Han Shot First New Member

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    I've gone for Romain Grosjean, because he will win this weekend. Or next race. Or whenever Vettel decides to stop being selfish.


    On a serious note, Vettel has to lose eventually, maybe this will be the weekend the streak ends.
     
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  10. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I? Forum Moderator

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    Vettel will want to sign this season off as the most dominant season by a driver ever. No way will he let anybody else win not even his team mate.
     
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  11. TomTom94

    TomTom94 Well-Known Member

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    India 2011 was Vettel's first Grand Chelem. I think he might be in with a chance <laugh>
     
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  12. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    lol, anyone but would be my guess
     
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  13. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    James Allen on F1: Indian Grand Prix: Another tense strategy battle like Suzuka?

    Track characteristics
    Buddh International &#8211; 5.125 kilometres. Race distance &#8211; 60 laps = 307.249 kilometres. 16 corners in total. Average speed 210 km/h. A new circuit hosting a Grand Prix for the second time
    Aerodynamic setup &#8211; High downforce. Top speed 323km/h (with DRS open) 310km/h without
    Full throttle &#8211; 70% of the lap time. Total fuel needed for race distance &#8211; 161.6 kilos (high). Fuel consumption &#8211; 2.65 kg per lap (ave)
    Brake wear &#8211; average.
    Total time needed for a pit stop: 21 seconds
    Fuel effect (cost in lap time per 10kg of fuel carried): 0.35 seconds (ave/high)


    Likely tyre performance and other considerations
    Pirelli tyre choice for India: Soft (yellow markings) and medium (white markings).
    Last year Pirelli was too conservative with its tyre choice; hard and soft. The proof is that the four fastest laps in the race were all set on the final lap, so there was plenty left in the tyres at the end.
    As a result everyone made only one stop around lap 30.
    To counter this and with the interesting strategy battle of Suzuka fresh in the mind, Pirelli is bringing the soft and medium tyre this weekend. This will mean two stops instead of one and some teams might be able to race two stints on the soft, which will be faster than the medium. Lotus and Force India may well try this.
    A glance at the tyre selections for the season to date shows that the medium has become the default tyre for F1, used in 14 of the 15 races to date. The only race where it was not used was Monaco.
    The circuit provides a similar level of tyre challenge to Silverstone, with 80% of the tyre energy of Suzuka.
    The high temperatures should suit the soft tyre, which has problems sometimes with graining if the weather is cool.
    Last year there were no problems with wear or degradation,
    The surface of the track is not like many other venues and is not particularly abrasive. It is rarely used, so it is usually quite dusty at the start of the weekend and stays fairly dusty. That said, the track does improve quite a bit over the weekend, so tyre data from Friday practice will not necessarily translate to performance on Sunday.
    The front-left tyre is usually a limiting factor in the race, due to the layout of the corners, while wheels spinning under acceleration out of the many low speed corners will also take quite a bit out of the rear tyres.


     
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  14. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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  15. BrightLampShade

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    Seems legit
     
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  16. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I? Forum Moderator

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    wow a terrorist attack on Lewis Hamilton...Things are getting desperate. <laugh>
     
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  17. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    And he won the US Grand Prix!!
     
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  18. Forza Bianchi

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    Alonso's new helmet:

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  19. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    CIRCUIT DATA

    BUDDH INTERNATIONAL CIRCUIT


    Length of lap: 5.125km
    Lap record:
    1:27.249
    (Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull Racing, 2011)
    Start/finish line offset: 0.251km
    Total number of race laps: 60
    Total race distance: 307.249km
    Pitlane speed limits:
    80km/h throughout the weekend.

    CHANGES TO THE CIRCUIT SINCE 2012
    &#9658; Other than routine maintenance there have been no changes of significance.

    DRS ZONES
    &#9658; There are two DRS zones at the Buddh International Circuit. The detection point of the first is 16m before Turn Three and its activation point is 350m after Turn Three. The second zone&#8217;s detection point is 10m after Turn 15, with the activation point 36m after Turn 16.



    The main DRS zone is 80m longer this year. In 2012 it was 80m longer than 2011 as well. I checked it wasn't a typo copying last years info but since 2011 the second DRS has been the following distance after turn 3

    2011: 510m
    2012: 430m
    2011: 350m

     
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  20. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I? Forum Moderator

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    I tried ringing Alonso's helmet but it went straight to voice mail....
     
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