some of the insightful and well written documents on this link : https://www.facebook.com/groups/HiDeHoCONTROVERSYofMadeleineMcCann/files/ the first listed document- written by T Bennett is quite long but is an thought provoking article (if anyone has the inclination/want to read it ?) Theres loads of info and speculation thats been written about this tragic story that has somewhat muddied the waters making it difficult to have an opinion either way I'm still sitting on the fence regarding the situation
I wish I'd never watched that report that The Mackem Effect posted. I've never researched this case and was just going on my instinct.. But watching those sniffer dogs made my flesh creep. I really do believe now that the McCanns were involved. It also seems that there's quite some hypocrisy regarding the Portuguese police. They're portrayed as bumbling half wits for failing to find the kidnappers but correct and professional in not prosecuting the McCanns.
reet, i must admit i have become obsessed over this in the last 48hrs, even joined a group on fyassbook assessing important analysis and evidence and this is my take on it (not posting again on this thread) : The mccanns went to the bar as usual the night before, and the next morning maddie asked where they were when she woke during the night. The next night they dosed her up too far and she went into a fit and hemorrhage'd and died whilst bleeding through a head orrifice, or falling under the sedation Gerry returned to find the carnage upto 2 hrs later and panicked, waited for his wife. saying something like we are ****ed, mrs went into hysterics after holding maddie tried to get her warm with a blanket from the cupboard. Slumped behind the sofa crying holding the doll. Gerry then left accross the veranda, through the flower bed. Mrs went back to the tapas and explained what had happened and said that if they were done for neglect than so would all of you, we have video footage of you all leaving your kids, this could have happened to any of us. we need your help Borrowed somebodies boat Gerry dumped her at sea They all got their heads together and this is where we are today And i also think she blames him
That's a hell of a conspiracy theory. Not saying you're wrong as I've read very little into all of this but that sounds a little far fetched. How many people are you suggesting are in on it?
ok 1 more post coz i'm obsessed and that both the mccanns and potentially the full tappas 7, all very well educated and connected people, doctors, lawyers etc
Christ Almighty, there's some truly shocking stuff in there. The more I dig into it, the more I doubt them. Have a look at this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_6UR9pjugQ
This theory being correct does not necessitate all their friends being in on it...they could have just run to the bar and begun their story on her being abducted...9 people being in on something like that is not possible imho. I still believe in the McCann's innocence, although every bone in my body tells me Gerry is a twisted bastard. Either way she died because of them, and he is a hard shell of a man about it.
I'll wait until the true facts come out, rather than all this evidence from dubious unofficial sources, before I judge anyone..
That's because you're a decent bloke mate. I used to believe the girl was abducted, sent money to the fund and encouraged other people to do the same. I reckon that money has been pissed up the wall by a team of advisers, spokesmen and lawyers. The 'top private detectives' the McCanns brought in have done absolutely nowt. You're right, there's a lot we don't know, however I can judge them for the true facts I already know. They spared the girl a few hours out of their busy schedule on her last day, Gerry barely saw her if you look at his statements. They left 3 tiny children alone at night in a strange flat in a foreign country and left the door open, night after night while they went out on the piss. They did that on the last night, despite the little lass waking up crying for them, for some time, the previous night. They never made any attempt to search when they found she's gone. All of that is true, and bad enough, but I now truly suspect them of more and believe the police do. The police are making a massive deal of this 'new witness' who said he was up to 80% sure the man he saw carrying the child was Gerry McCann. (Let's be honest here, a professional kidnap gang wouldn't get to the point where they, after days of surveillance etc, had the girl then stroll through a busy holiday resort with her.) They issue a description and photo-fit of a suspect who looks like the thin-lipped, short haired smirking Gerry McCann. He's a nasty arrogant man who believes the more he protests his innocence the more the public, and police, are falling for it. Personally, I believe it's having the opposite effect.
"Gerry returned to find the carnage upto 2 hrs later and panicked, waited for his wife." This is of course ignoring the facts that every official sauce has said is true. The kids were checked every half hour by the McCanns and their friends over the evening. When Gerry checked he was gone for no longer than ten minutes before returning to the bar. I understand people would like Gerry to be sent down cause he does come across as a Twat but the above statement is a obvious lie. Unless of course all of the people at the Bar that day are lying. IMO there's no chance that many people would/could lie for this long when the death of a child is involved. No chance.
Dunno where that 'evidence' came from but all of the times are far from unclear including the guessed, claimed and 'fabricated'. What is clear, and included in the McCanns 'under oath' police statement, is that the McCanns sat down with their friends, ripped a page from a children's book and took two attempts to produce a 'time scale'. They also took around 3/4's of an hour from the moment the mother said 'They've taken her' to calling the police ........ what were they doing in all that time, checking behind the sofa and under the bed? It's 10.50 am now, just wait until around 11.30 and try to imagine what they would've been doing in all that time. That's a long time for the 'kidnappers' to get away isn't it? Jane Tanner who said, under oath, she'd seen a man carrying away a girl that looked 'just like Maddie, wearing the same pyjamas' was present during that time after the 'kidnap'. Is it really possible that she sat there and said nowt ......... I'd say it's totally impossible.
It takes 90mins to 2hrs for the death smell (cadanva) to be created from a corpse, which the 100% accurate in over 200 cases sniffer dogs scented
Fascinating isn't it. I really hope we do find out what went on that day cause any speculative answer seems to throw up more questions. Two things I'm certain of though. The poor girl died that night and the McCanns didn't do it. They may have a good idea of who did do it though. Strange thing to say..."They've taken her"
Yeah. What I was saying is they were never left two hours it was approx 30 mins. Gerry didn't find carnage and wait for his wife, he returned to to the Bar after finding nothing wrong. It was Kate who found Maddie on the next visit. This is fact unless your prepared to believe that all nine people out that night are lying.
Some of them have been proved to be lying including the Jane Tanner woman. I've tried to imagine what I would do, in the position of a friend, who'd accepted 'help' from the two doctors with their children. Would I be scared that the British authorities would be looking at taking my kids into care? What would I do if the McCanns begged/threatened me to keep quiet? After all the girl had died and I'd been complicit in the arrangements. The friends were supposed to have checked on Madeline but one of them, Oldfield, admits he didn't actually go into the bedroom, just 'listened' outside. It's funny that the friends, who you'd think would do everything they could to be helping the campaign, have all but vanished. No TV appeals, no interviews in the press, no charity fund raisers, nothing. Perhaps they haven't rehearsed their story as well as the McCanns and don't want to trip themselves up. I don't have a ****ing clue tbh.
I think the checks were not adequate as smug says an ear to the door, so its plausable to suggest that a further more stringent check unearthed the unthinkable
