http://www.adifferentleague.co.uk/p6_0_22365_-.html#.Ul6bgtLinPo âThe new manager has been brilliant. He has spoken to the lads - or at least all the lads that have been here during the international break - and he wants us to play in our natural positions where possible. âI've played some games at right-back and Jack [Colback] has played at left-back, but we both prefer playing in central midfield and hopefully we'll get a chance to do that.â Ok, but I sincerely hope colback and gardner will continue to play where they are needed, cos I dont see either of them playing in CM ahead of Catts, Ki and Giacc and I would hate to see Colback lose out on playing time as he is getting better and better at LB. And why dont players listen to their managers? Colback's been played at LB by successive managers for a bloody good reason, not cos they just want to irritate him by not playing him at CM. Richardson did it, disliked playing at LB, joined fulhum so he could be an AM again, but has spent all his time at LB. Hope colback doesnt do the same.
Colback has a decision to make that will define his career, be a capable Premier league left back or be a capable Championship centre midfielder.
Spot on - unfortunate really. I like the lad and always wondered if it was the "LB" role he's been given which is the reason he hasn't signed yet. I wouldn't play Gardner ahead of Catts or Ki in CM or ahead of Giacc in an attacking role - but he could be useful if Giaccherini is needed out on the wing in an "AM" role as he does get into some good places and scores goals. Sometimes wish he would learn how to pass when within 35 yards of goal though!! Is this comment Gardner? If it is then I may have changed a little bit of opinion on him as the line "Both Jack Colback and I prefer to play in Central Midfield so hopefully we'll get chance to do that" tells me that he's telling the manager what to do. When O'Neill was here he said "Well I prefer midfield but, as long as I'm playing, I'll go in goal if I have to"
Westwood Celustka---Diakité---Roberge---Dossena Cats----Colback Ki AJ---------------Giac Fletch That's how I want us to line up. Ki and Colback are the best passers in the squad by a country mile. They need to be in the middle of the park because they fit our new head coaches philosophy perfect. We need to remember what our new philosophy involves and that means our best passers involved in the middle of the park, not stuffed away at leftback in an unnatural position imo
yep its gardner. To be fair, Poyet has said he wants players in their natural positions. I just dont think colback's natural position is the one he thinks it is.
Ki has 86% pass rate, Colback 83.3% and 3rd place is... Vaughan at 83.1% I ignored Cabral with a rate of 86% success, as he has only played 1 game. Larsson has 81.1%, Catts 81.6% Is pass accuracy really the be all and end all?
Ki has 86% pass rate, Colback 83.3% and 3rd place is... Vaughan at 83.1% I ignored Cabral with a rate of 86% success, as he has only played 1 game. Larsson has 81.1%, Catts 81.6% Is pass accuracy really the be all and end all?
Colback hasn't had a run in midfield for a very long time. Who's to say the development he's gained at left back can't be applied to cm role? Seem harsh that people are writing him off as cm when there's nothing really there to base it on, apart from in and out spells in the position before he was moved to lb and before the next stage of his development kicked in. His defensive capabilities have developed, an area he was lacking when last in midfield. We know he's a work horse. He just needs to develop his forward passing but as he's still developing, with the right coaching and playing around players like Ki he's well on the way to having all the attributes of a very good premiership midfielder. Just needs a run of games to show he can do it there which he hasn't had. Easy to question his form as a kid but he's a man now and should be given an opportunity imo
Colback hasn't had a run in midfield for a very long time. Who's to say the development he's gained at left back can't be applied to cm role? Seem harsh that people are writing him off as cm when there's nothing really there to base it on, apart from in and out spells in the position before he was moved to lb and before the next stage of his development kicked in. His defensive capabilities have developed, an area he was lacking when last in midfield. We know he's a work horse. He just needs to develop his forward passing but as he's still developing, with the right coaching and playing around players like Ki he's well on the way to having all the attributes of a very good premiership midfielder. Just needs a run of games to show he can do it there which he hasn't had. Easy to question his form as a kid but he's a man now and should be given an opportunity imo
Ki has 86% pass rate, Colback 83.3% and 3rd place is... Vaughan at 83.1% I ignored Cabral with a rate of 86% success, as he has only played 1 game. Larsson has 81.1%, Catts 81.6% Is pass accuracy really the be all and end all?
Colback hasn't had a run in midfield for a very long time. Who's to say the development he's gained at left back can't be applied to cm role? Seem harsh that people are writing him off as cm when there's nothing really there to base it on, apart from in and out spells in the position before he was moved to lb and before the next stage of his development kicked in. His defensive capabilities have developed, an area he was lacking when last in midfield. We know he's a work horse. He just needs to develop his forward passing but as he's still developing, with the right coaching and playing around players like Ki he's well on the way to having all the attributes of a very good premiership midfielder. Just needs a run of games to show he can do it there which he hasn't had. Easy to question his form as a kid but he's a man now and should be given an opportunity imo
Pass rate is important but depends which direction they are going in. Joe Allen has 90% + but all his passes are 5 yards and either sideways or backwards.
Pass rate is important but depends which direction they are going in. Joe Allen has 90% + but all his passes are 5 yards and either sideways or backwards.
Bloody hell, this site has wrecked this thread. It does when you're about to adopt a philosophy that demands it fella. It's up to gus to get our best passers retaining well and playing the right pass. As your stats state Colback is second. However, he's done that from fullback. Surely we want him in the middle of the park with those stats. He's played more games than anyone else in those stats anarl. There's no way a fullback should be averaging a better passing av then centre midfielders. Like Parker said a couple of times there, it all depends on where the passes go and that's Poyets challenge with the midfield.
Hate to throw a dampener on this but doesn`t it depend on whether Dossena is any good? Haven`t seen the bugger play yet. It also depends (if he is good) whether he & Colback can develop an understanding, covering each other etc. Aren`t we getting way ahead of ourselves here?
Not really fella, this off the fact Poyet said he's looking to play players in their natural position. As Dossena is the only senior Left Back at the club and fit to play. in my OP not one player is out of position in my team and everyone should be fit for the next game. I think that team looks bang on myself.
This may mean Poyet playing them in what HE considers to be their natural position - not what they consider it to be. I remember that Kenny Burns' natural position was Centre Forward - until at Forest, Cloughie decided that his natural position was Centre Half.
