Margaret Thatcher. "I would never sell the Royal Mail, how can you sell the Queens head?" Does this make Cameron worse than Thatcher? Another British company sold off for the rich to make a profit and foreign companies to buy out and hold us to ransom in our own country.
Yet another British jewel sold off on the cheap. Those that will personally benefit the most? The people that sold it. Those that will feel the pain...Us
Everyone should take notice of this. Cause if we vote the Tories back in then it's bye bye NHS like it's bye bye Royal Mail.
I think the politians have been chipping away at privatising the NHS for years. How many services within the NHS have been "contacted out"...I reckon within the next 10 years..the NHS will be a similar system to that of the USA...that would be a huge shame.
Yep - If they get back in then the NHS will be royally ****ed. I work for the NHS (and for Unison) and have seen it happen in "smaller and richer" hospital locations - the Tories do this as a dangly worm for the rest of the country to say "Look it has worked really well in Cambridge and East Sussex and shows that privatisation is the way forward" Whereas the reality is that the people in these locations can comfortably afford the hospital treatment required. Imagine suffering from a heart attack having just run out of medical insurance - you arrive in A&E at South tyneside hospital and they lok into your records and say "You have no insurance, sorry we can't treat you" What's even worse is that my boss is a big style conservative (and pushes it down everyone elses throat too) - I can see what's happening - surely he can too - or else he can simply afford the treatement costs as he's not ill - I'm diabetic so where would that leave me?
NHS needs massive reform (but I dont agree with full privatisation) I say that not comparing to the system in the USA, but in France where healthcare is also free. In UK public wards are the norm - 16 people stuck in the same room, no privacy. In France "free" rooms are 2 people max, and you have the option of paying for a private room (money goes back to the hospital, so the hospital benefits). UK, went in for simple procedure, ended up waiting 5 days. every 8 hours "here, operation cancelled have a bowl of cereal" by the end of day 4 I was ready to punch the doctor if I didnt get something decent to eat. out of hospital on day 8. for that entire time I was using up a hospital bed, and using up NHS money France, same procedure, in hospital wait 4 hours, into operation block, out of hospital on day 4. Anyway, as you can probably tell, I hate UK hospitals.
Problem is Dan - the politicians over here are so corrupt that they'll tax the hospital for those "private" room bills and end up skimming off the top so the hospital ends up getting 40% of the money that is paid to them. I love the idea you're talking about and think it would make a massive difference to the NHS to have that money put back into it. The hospital I work in has the facilities to treat private patients in certain parts so they make money that way, but having looked at the money they "make" compared to the money that is paid for the services - it's a joke. I have no issues with UK hospitals as I have never had any problems - 5 leg operations and always been in and out. 2 Eye operations no problems at all. My dad had a triple bypass and, although there was a 2 day delay due to an emergency cardio procedure being admitted so those extra 2 days he was in there were as a result of the NHS treating a more serious, less controlled case (and, chances are, that's what happened to you too) but they can't tell you these things due to Patient confidentiality (I found out with my dad as the patient they had to operate on ended up in the bed next door). Each to their own is all you can say really and I can only speak on my own experiences
Yep, everytime I was scheduled in, an emergency come up and slot was cancelled. My point was not to say "those bloody emergency cases". If they had the ability to treat emergency and "normal" cases separately then I wouldnt have been taking up hospital bed, food and nurse's time. Yet the NHS (or government) will say, but the facilities would cost us £££ if we wanted to treat normal and emergency cases in separate facilities, forgetting how much £ they would save by freeing up hospital beds, nurse's time etc that much quicker. My granddad went in for a double bypass, ended up staying in for much longer than expected due to other cases etc (I forget the exact reasons they gave), so he took up the hospital bed for longer, the extra time in hospital meant took even more out of him (both mentally and physically) then towards the end it was "it looks like he has picked up an infection, we now have to keep him in for extra treatment" (more hospital time and £ lost).
I think it's needs reform because of the tories. The NHS is the type of service that will always need investment. It's needs to maintained like a machine. The tories came in and cut ****ing funding to it. Contracted services out and took a **** on it. The NHS is the envy of the world and Cameron wants to bury it. I'm sick to death of this bullshite about privet sector job employment rising. Well it's going to if you sell off public services and and make your civil services redundant. They never mention the job information in the public sector do they. They fixed employment figures after the olympics not they're fixing employment figures from privatisation. ****ers the lot of them I've no confidence in Miliband and I wish Labour would replace him, but I'd still have a labour government then a Tory one even if it mean Hapless Ed is prime minister.
I agree mate - but it's not the "politicians" as such saying that stuff - a lot of time it's the managers (or it was when the PCT's existed anyhow) that said "we can't have "one ward for emergencies and one for normal" because of the money involved. And also because, if we spend less money this year, we get less budget to spend from the governement next year (yes I know but it's a ****ing joke the amount wasted) I worked in one department where, prior to me starting, they had a piece of software that cost £10k per year for a support and installation licence (didn;t even include upgrade to the latest version) - 4 years they paid this £10k and never used the software - just because the director's vision statement had the software and it's capabilities as a "must do". It only started getting used because I startwed working there - so they spent £40k on some software which never got used. Within 2 months of me starting, it was fully integrated and used across the patch - se NOW they get their moneys worth out of it! Money wise, the Tories go on and on about "Labour left us in deficit of however many £million" Whet they don't say is that "due to having to Bail Out the Norther Rock fiasco, which labour spent £50m on, they left us £3m in deficit" - so it was a case of Labour bail out Northern Rock and stop people losing millions of pounds (go into deficit) - OR - People lose their savings, houses etc. in the same way that Greece did - they were £40 odd million better off until Norther Rock fell over!! All politicians are full of **** but the Tories seem to tell some of the truth but don't explain the reasons these truths happened! (I could be on this soap box for some time)
True but at least The Labour government plowed money into it. The Tory governments either side of the Labour terms stripped it down and cut it to death. Can you even comprehend how much a full radical reform would cost the country now? All intentional from the Tories so they have an excuse to privatise it
All this "the tories will privatise the NHS" is bullshit, frankly. Gordon Brown put massive PFI funding in place during the last Labour government and kept it all off-balance sheet. The fact is (and it is a fact) that the tories have always increased spending on the NHS. One day there'll be a sensible debate on the subject. It's taken years before people have come round to accepting that the benefits system needs reform, but it's only now that people accept that benefits are there to provide a safety net, not a lifestyle choice. Same with the NHS. People now accept that we simply can't keep plowing more money into it without reform, but the debate is still blighted by the "tory cuts" mantra from the left.
I'm all for it, but it's the manner in which they've done it that makes them nowt but a bunch heartless bastards. They really are scum of the earth. Their idea of reform is to punish the needy to get to the cheets. It's ****ing barbaric. I've a friend, a middle aged lady who's been haunted with mental health problems her whole life which have included lengthy spells of depression and reclusiveness. Whenever she's been fit enough to graft, she's grafted her arse off. A few years ago she was diagnosed with a benign operable brain tumor which had grown to the size of a tennis ball. As a result of the surgery she's suffered for her memory of words, her pronunciation skills and severally messed up her short term memory (Basically leaves ovens and pans on, missed appointments and date etc). They've put her through living hell, like forcing her to leave the house, Stopping her money for not making it to appointments then telling her that after her period without benefits has expired to got to the jobcentre and sign on. Insinuating that she as a liar and benefit thief at medicals, bombarding her with forms and just ran her through the mill. Why? All because they've refused to consult her doctors notes and followed reports from non medically trained contractors. She has had her doctors notes consulted at her appeal where she was judged unfit for work quite rightly. No apology, no compensation, nothing. They nearly sent her to an early grave. Experiences mould an opinion fella. The Conservative party can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.
