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Remy permanent deal to Newcastle?

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by WBA2_QPR3, Oct 15, 2013.

  1. Rollercoaster Ranger

    Rollercoaster Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I've tried asking the club whether his release clause becomes invalid should we win promotion, but I don't have the right contacts to get an answer.

    There has been a lot of talk that there is an agreed sale figure in Remy's loan deal. My guess would be that it lets them recoup their loan fee, but that is purely a guess. If he does leave we'd be better off if he went somewhere else.
     
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  2. West London Willy

    West London Willy Well-Known Member

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    There might be a bidding war in respect of his wages, but nothing that impacts the money coming to QPR.
     
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  3. QPR999

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    Good point. I always thought that it was a relegation clause.
     
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  4. devonqprboy

    devonqprboy Well-Known Member

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    Makes good sense to sell him to me. yes, he is a class players, yes he will score goals and yes he is probably worth 20m plus (would be if it weren't for his dicky ticker). But, it is clear he doesn't want to play for us in whatever division we are in, he only saw us as a stepping stone to another English club and it would be hillarious if he ends up being relegated again with Newcastle.

    We can use the money to get another quality striker - Rhodes for example.
     
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  5. Swords Hoopster.

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    If he keeps his current form up I wouldn't be surprised if Wenger tries to enlist him into his Foreign Legion.
     
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  6. qprbeth

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    That is why I think Remy and his advisers will not sign for Newcastle in the Jan window...He wants to keep his options open...His best options for this year is to stay with us (sounds daft, but I think it is true). If he is as brilliant as he is appearing to be at the moment (and is not locked up) ...someone REALLY big will come for him...admittedly I do not think it will do us any good except...Newcastle will have paid £2million for the year, and we can still enforce the full 8 (or6) million buyout clause...so we would get an extra £2 million that way
     
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  7. qprbeth

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  8. Rollercoaster Ranger

    Rollercoaster Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you but I don't remember Remy giving up or showing the lack of interest of some of the other players, obviously I don't know about behind the scenes but I'd say if he plays as he is we won't keep him whether we want to or not.
     
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  10. Flyer

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    I think the best thing we can hope for is for him not to want to go there and another club come in and offer us the full £8m or his clause runs out and we sell him for a lot more.

    Hes a fantastic finisher but the players and manager dont like the way he jumped ship so probably wont be welcomed back.
     
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  11. Peter Damage

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    So let me get this straight...

    French international striker joins an awful QPR team scores 6 goals in 13 (Imagine what he would do in a good team). Works hard/contributed in every game he played and then reasonably in a world cup year moves to a premiership team. He is unarguably too good for the championship, did his bit, TF keeps his side of the bargain and lets him move on. Would have been to a profit to someone like Arsenal but he gets in trouble with the law and has that hanging over him (innocent until proven guilty).

    He’s out on loan and scores 5 goals in 5 games at another bad side. He is second top scorer in the premier league but with the league best games to goal ratio.

    He has scored goals at champions league, international and premier league level. Has pace, strength, technical and world class finishing ability

    All this talk of the £8m release clause, no body here genuoinely knows the in's and out of that. So despitge all the above the overall consensus among this board on whether or not we want him next year… is that he's not wanted back... Why? Apparently he hasnt got the right attitude!?!?!?!!?!?!!?!

    **** me that’s ridiculous.

    Not sure what evidence that is based on and as for this emphasis ont eh right attiotude. The crystal palace team have the right attitude but look how they’re getting on. There’s more to it than that, and in any case, Remy isn’t a Bosingwa type cancer in the dressing room. He’s a world class striker who scores goals, but no, QPR fans want try hard no talent players as is the default position amongst the poorly educated old fashioned bollox merchants that populate most of loftus road.

    Embarrassing.
     
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  12. DaveThomas

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    All costs is possibly the point here as costs/money will become a massive factor with Remy ... Options ... Remy comes super good we could be look we could be looking at 20m profit ... he scores goals and the bigger teams will all want him and we have seen how daft the Bale thing went. Make no mistake here please TF as I said when he was linked he would be outstanding... he isn't close to what he can do i am convinced as in French Football at times he had too much time there ... over here he has had to quick quickly and take his chances in a blink ... that is a rare talent and he is a QPR player.

    Again options and I hope we keep ours and don't sell him to Newcastle

    Remy himself in France is reported to have warmed to our club and the ambition we have ... he is romantic to the project ... only afoul would chuck that away by agreeing a sale now or in January. I pray that they have been clever here and know all this as just Remy in our team in the Premier League if we return is a clear winner as the increasing price tag he carrys with him

    Lets hope he stays out of jail and lays a golden egg for us or stays with the hoops
     
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  13. Flyer

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    Of course the fact he insisted on such a low clause means he only sees us as a stepping stone to another club.

    Who mentioned they wanted no talent players? We want players with talent and the right attitude.
     
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  14. KPDHoopster

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    Shall I pose a hypothetical question to a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical statement:

    Who insisted on the £8m amount ?

    Most contract negotiations I have been privy to, all amounts/clauses are agreed too by both parties, for a reason
     
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  15. Peter Damage

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    The low release clause for a player of his ability was mutually beneficial. Try and keep us up, but if it doesn’t work out and we do get relegated no worries someone will buy you. Arrest was unforeseen and complicated this.

    Who knows what’s the contract says now the August window has closed.

    As for the stepping stone comment. Don’t be so naïve. He should be playing for a champions league side and should be playing at a bigger club like Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool or Chelsea and he has the ability. If we stayed up he would have stayed with us unless someone came in and we made a tidy profit. Win win.

    99.9% of players are only loyal to a club if they cant do any better. If a premier league club had come in for Hill and offered him the wages and a regular starting position would he have turned them down? Of course not. The difference with Remy is that he has the ability.

    If Man United were to come in for Austin at the end of the season on the ack of his performances this year would he go? Of course he would, therefore do you want rid of him as well then? Because that would make us a stepping stone.

    I shouldn’t have said no talent but what is clear is the over-emphasis on attitude. There are plenty of players out there with the right attitude. There aren’t many players around who can do what Remy can. And again, I’m yet to find a problem with Remy’s attitude, certainly to the extent that it’s so negative that it counters 20 odd goals a season in the premier league
     
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  16. Flyer

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    Give me one reason why a club would insist on a low buy out clause.

    We only agreed to it as it was the only way to get him.
     
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  17. Flyer

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    Can you not see the difference between a player insisting on a low get out clause compared to another who performs well and goes onto better things. Austin hasnt signed he so he cam play for Arsenal in 2 years time. Remy had no intention staying from the start.

    From Remy himself

    "When I'm 100% I can do very good things, but when there's something not quite right in my head, something's bothering me, it becomes difficult.

    "My profile as a player is that when I've got a small problem, things become difficult.

    "It might sound pretentious but the physios say that I'm like an F1 car. Whenever I've got a small problem, it's straight into the pits." "

    Are you telling me thats not a problem?
     
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  18. DaveThomas

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    If you are right then Remy is using Newcastle as a stepping stone ... we know nothing about his contract Flyer ... no one knows at all .... The idiot Harold claims he knows nothing and leaves that to Rosie

    There is a few facts i know about ... Remy has cooled that he will move to Newcastle ... He also would have stayed with us but we went down and he is quoted as saying that was in his contract. His value will soar if he continues to score for Newcastle ... He is a QPR player and therefore as i said we need to preserve our options on this player. Newcastle don't pay as high wages as we did. Remy will believe maybe he can get 150K a week ... I can see him at Arsenal or Spurs
     
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  19. Flyer

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    We know he has an £8m clause. We know his value will not increase, we know hes not committed to newcastle or us so the only reasonable explanation is that hes trying to get a move to a better team. He could well end up at Arsenal if the court case goes away.

    Ive said from the start they are the perfect team for him, a team that creates loads of chances but often struggles to put them away.
     
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  20. Stroller

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    Remy would be the missing link for Arsenal, and they would win the league for sure.
     
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