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The Hornets' Nest II

Discussion in 'Watford' started by geitungur akureyrar, Nov 16, 2011.

  1. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    morning all ... getting out of bed in the morning getting increasingly unattractive <laugh>
     
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  2. Busy Being Headhunted

    Busy Being Headhunted Well-Known Member

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    A very good morning to all Watford and Leicester playoff contenders, and good morning to Norwich relegation fodder

    I am in a good mood this morning and not going to upset anybody :emoticon-0178-rock:
     
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  3. geitungur akureyrar

    geitungur akureyrar Well-Known Member

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    Hæ það öll. Cappuccino, coffee, tea donuts and fruit are on the bar.

    Frothy cappuccinos for for al, HH, and W_Y
    Coffee and cramel frapachino for IB
    Coffees for COYH, Frenchie, Kev rob theo and vic-rijrode and kiwiqpr
    Strong coffee for Sandy
    Milky coffee for Yorkie
    Espresso for SuffolkHorn
    Strong black coffees for Bragi Norway and zen
    Black coffee half hot half cold and no sugar for Charlie
    A peppermint latte for DanH
    Tea for BHD Cornish Mark jsybarry jerzeypie Lloydinio NZ and BCFCRed
    Tea with skimmed milk and no sugar for GG and Leon
    Hot chocolate with marshmallows for BBW
    Caramel latte for Hornette Scullion Canary Dave Fossefilberto and Maestro
    Una paloma for Mexican Hornet

    Big day today.

    I saw this reading the pages last night.

    When Eiríkr rauði Þorvaldsson (perhaps), Leifr Eiríksson, Þorfinnr Karlsefni Þórðarson and others were voyaging to the Americas the locals were already trading within their own groups Mi'kmaq, Algonquin, Abenaki, Iroquois (current names) etc and further to the interior. The víkingar were also trading with these people, who were building large structures. The indigenous were much more developed in 950AD the the people of New Guinea are now. They may be primative at this time but not neolithic. If you are looking like that then europe was neolithic compared to the civilizations of China and Japan of this time. European settlement did not last very long but trade between the Norsemen and locals went on until about 1350, perhaps later.
     
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  4. canary-dave

    canary-dave Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the caramel latte Ak and very good luck for tonight! <ok>
     
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  5. kiwiqpr

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    cheers for the coffee ak
     
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  6. Raphael

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    perhaps you should lose weight or indulge in personal grooming <somersault> - or buy your other half sunglasses :)
     
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  7. Raphael

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    I think in today's British society it is wrong to assume anyone is of a particular faith or any at all. People talk about this being a Christian country but non church goers out number church goers many times over. However faith is an integral part of the human condition and so it is good to teach about the many faiths that are practiced around the world - and that includes native American totems
     
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  8. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    ... the 'totem pole', as popularised by westerners, is a bit of a myth ... the Ghost Dance however is well worth consideration; one of it's core themes being that the white man's self serving greed and desire to 'own' all things, even the earth (which can't be owned) will one day lead to cataclysmic events that destroy him and his culture ... heralding the return of the buffalo and the ascendency of the red man ...
     
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  9. FosseFilberto

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    .. it's big ... but not THAT big <laugh>
     
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  10. colognehornet

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    Excellent post ! The description of a culture which was advanced enough to realize that the Earth , and its resources, do not belong exclusively to us as being neolithic is laughable.
     
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  11. Raphael

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    I used Neolithic as I thought it was an accurate definition of a civilisation that could not smelt metal. Correct me if they did. It did not imply criticism of their culture as such - but was used in the context of "would anyone seriously want to go back to pre bronze age working. I also think the Australian Aboriginees had a superb understanding of their relationship with land. However realising the Earth did not belong to us probably goes back to the very dawn of man so cannot really be described as advanced

    Unfortunately neither of these cultures are compatible with 7 billion people - even if they are all nice environmental socialists.
     
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  12. Raphael

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    For what it is worth I was referring to totems - no totem poles. I would beware of reading too much into what we think ancient civilisations thought - who was it recently thought the Earth would end in 2012? :)
     
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  13. Raphael

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    Unfortunately I have to go away for a few days now - probably to the relief of many of you considering my yabbering on over the last few days.

    However I would like to express my thanks to those who have played along and entered the couple of debate themes we have had. I enjoyed them and hope others - even lurkers did too. Amazingly we do not seem to have solved any of the world's problems but we have livened up this forum while our boys were not playing

    Catch you all laters
     
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  14. FosseFilberto

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    ... the Ghost Dance phenomena is as recent as the late 19th century, which I wouldn't term 'ancient' and it's component elements were well documented by many around at the time - so there is very little left to 'interpretation' or 'reading' ... unrestrained greed, particularly without responsibilty will inevitable lead to chaos and collapse as we use up the earth's natural resources ... simples.
     
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  15. Scullion

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    Bit late on this one but I am 100% with you on this Dan and it is the reason I left teaching after 4 years - I could see the writing on the wall. Don't forget all the admin crap they have to do now as well to justify their existence, which is mainly done after hours. Yup if I went home and told my parents I had a telling they would have said I must have deserved it.

    I have similar qualifications to Dan and they were down to my hard work but the teachers in my excellent secondary modern school (I failed the 11+) provided a fantastic environment and stimulus and I quickly got my act together. Result 12 GCE's, 3 A levels, BSc hons, TQ and CA.
     
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  16. babyhornetdan

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    Yeah, I got two after school detentions for lateness and they totalled the number of minutes I was late over the year. This meant that I was cycling home in the dark and my dinner was cold. Mum simply said to me that maybe I would be on time in future.

    My english teacher Ms Cunningham, was my favourite teacher of all. She knew my brain needed waking up at the start of a lesson and that I had low self-esteem, so she would put a dingbat puzzle on the board and we would all try to answer it. Because I enjoyed it I got quite good and it made me feel great when I got it right.
     
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    I used to love those dingbats, don't see them anymore, probably because I don't buy a newspaper anymore! <ok>
     
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  18. Bolton's Boots

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    Not only had but in the main, still do - in spite of the best efforts of Western 'Civilisation'.

    Going back to the brief 'religion in schools' discussion - a couple of years ago, I strayed from the norm a little at the request of my class, none of whom really wanted to learn about 'run-of-the-mill' religious festivals from around the world. Instead, we spent a term studying Aboriginal Dreamtime Stories & the class were enthralled - many from that class still talk to me now about them. Unfortunately, some of the Holy Joe parents objected and I wasn't allowed to repeat the exercise - more's the pity. :(
     
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  19. wear_yellow

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    Evening all from a much milder Bandit Country - I hope the 18,000 poles at Wembley make lots and lots of noise and drown out that awful "England Band" and that annoying continuous rendition of The Great Escape...
     
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    Got Scotland v Croatia on and they did a short piece about Anya - more about growing up in Glasgow and his early career to show how far he's come. Walter Smith obviously doesn't realise we play 3-5-2 if he thinks IA is played as a RB for us. He probably has to do more defensive work for us because there isn't anyone directly behind him, so it seems that he's played in a more attacking role for Scotland.

    Good to see that unlike some of his team-mates who have more caps, he actually sings the national anthem.
     
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