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Love him or hated him Brian Clough ... Love it poor John Motson

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  1. Qatartiger Cambridgetiger

    Qatartiger Cambridgetiger Well-Known Member

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    TONY_WARNERS_FACE. Well-Known Member

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    I know he's dead and we're supposed to think this is great, but Clough just comes across as a massive cock in that video.
     
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  3. Stuart Blampey

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    ....whereas Motson comes across as a massive cock every time he opens his mouth.
     
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    Like I said love him or hate him !!

    <cheers>
     
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    Different era. Cloughy wouldn't be able to manage now. He was horrible, corrupt, rude, held a grudge, drank too much, argued for the sake of it, hit fans, took bungs and spouted crap. However what he managed to do with 2 relatively small clubs, especially Forest winning the European Cup makes him the best manager of all time in my book.

    He managed to get the best out of players in a way no other manager has ever done.
     
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    Like I said love him or hate him !!

    <cheers>
     
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    He's right about TV pundits though, it's still right today.
     
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    C'mon ref Well-Known Member

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    Sorry Namechange made a mess of this don't know how I clicked a reply to your post when it was meant for Ernie Shackleton's post

    "Different era. Cloughy wouldn't be able to manage now. He was horrible, corrupt, rude, held a grudge, drank too much, argued for the sake of it, hit fans, took bungs and spouted crap. However what he managed to do with 2 relatively small clubs, especially Forest winning the European Cup makes him the best manager of all time in my book.

    He managed to get the best out of players in a way no other manager has ever done."

    My reply:
    Basically I agree with what you say but it all fell to bits when his partnership with Peter Taylor disintegrated neither of them could re-create the magic they once had on their own.
     
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    Although true you're being economical with the info - he hit fans who invaded the pitch. He didnt just randomly start windmilling at fans. And taking bungs doesn't stop today's media loving Redknapp...
     
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  10. Ernie Shackleton

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    I was trying to sum him up in a few words, but I like the image of him randomly windmilling at fans! Towards the end it wouldn't have surprised me. Not my opinion but I think it was Danny Baker who once described him as the original **** who hit the fan.
     
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    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    I dindt think i could dislike that utter utter **** anymore if i tried but thanks you've made me do it.
     
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  12. Party Hull!

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    I used to be in a band called 'Danny Baker's ****'.

    We did grindcore.
     
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  13. Craigo

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    Got to disagree with some of this.
    Clough spoke his mind, he didn't suffer fools gladly, he spoke far more sense than crap and he had every right to be out-spoken about football issues because he knew more about them than most of his critics.

    Yes he was an alcoholic, yes he liked a bung, but he wasn't a horrible man. On the contrary he was a very warm, open friendly person outside of football.

    I talked to him in his son's shop where he would regularly sit on a stool by the window just passing the time of day with anyone who came in and chatting about football with awe-struck fans.
    He once said hello to my bosses wife and mother in the street (complete strangers).They got to talking and he asked them to have lunch with him in the park. They agreed and came back to work amazed at what a genuine down-to-earth person he was.
     
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