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Red Bull - KERS - load bank

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  1. ched999uk

    ched999uk Well-Known Member

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    Just been reading an article here: http://www.f1technical.net/features/18797?sid=392eab3be8354f03d6267ab0f31e1373 . Basically the bit that caught my eye is about the possibility that Red Bull are using a resistor load bank to keep KERS recharging. To me this means that KERS is producing a consistent breaking force when the car is slowing down. So they have much more consistent brakes than those teams not keeping KERS recharging.

    Does anyone know anything about this or any sites giving more info on the KERS system or the KERS regs?

    Cheers
     
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  2. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    hmmm.. Why did I have to approve your post?

    Yeah Its been mentioned in other posts but I guess it deserves its own thread. The KERS breaking would explain several things like extra traction and KERS breaking down on Webbers car several times
     
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  3. BrightLampShade

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    Probably because of the hyperlink, although thats 10 posts now so it should clear up <ok>

    I am convinced that Red Bull have done something very clever with their KERS and its an area which in theory will be even more powerful from next season so why no keep pushing the boundaries :)
     
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    ERS is supplied by the engine manufacturer next year I believe. I suppose Red Bull could still develop it as they're Renault's works team, but Williams and Caterham would have to use it too, presumably that's why they wanted Infiniti engines next year, so they didn't have to share their tech with other teams.
     
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    I have had a read of the tech regs and to me it appears that there is a loop hole that allows resistor load banks and potentially still will next year. Basically it states that the KERS (Kenetic Energy Recovery System) can only Recover 400kj per lap. If an excess is directed to the load bank that energy is not Recoverable, it is lost as heat. This would also be able to be managed by the standard control system, with a bit of load bank control, as it must have controls to limit the system to 400kj. So in theory any energy generated in excess of 400kj is not recoverable and therefore allowable?

    All very interesting.
     
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  8. dhel

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    Anybody noticed how right before qualifying reb bull pulls Vettel's car to pieces even the floor of the car?
     
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    Why do you think this is significant?

    Do they do this with Webbers?
     
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  10. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Read all his other 'Vettel is winning because RBR cheat' threads and you'll see why
     
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  11. dhel

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    Not with the frequency as Vettel's. Notice how late he is to start qualifying and his car is now finishing being assembled? Ok..watch next qualifying.
     
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  12. dhel

    dhel Well-Known Member

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    Miggins, keep your eyes wide open...lol. I am sure sooner or later you will notice something isn't quite right.lll:emoticon-0101-sadsm
     
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  13. dhel

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    Miggs...I am just pulling your legs ok...lol
     
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  14. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    not really, I remember the McLarens qualifying for pole well over a second faster than everyone else, that's what happens when you have the best car with the best driver/s, the competition doesn't have a chance.
     
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  15. Han Shot First

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    Yay, a new Hamelot to annoy <magic>
     
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  16. dhel

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    Or Weblot...Webberlot even?
     
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  17. SgtBhaji

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    We'll call you the Canberra Milk Kid. :p
     
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  18. dhel

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    Lol
     
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  19. Han Shot First

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    I assumed by the way you question everything RBR do that you were a hamelot. I duly apologise.
     
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  20. dhel

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    See what I told you? Vettel's red bull is up on the jacks being pull down right before qualifying...mmmm true to form..lol
     
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