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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Spurlock, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. O.Spurcat

    O.Spurcat Well-Known Member

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    Pulis lives in Bournemouth. Not saying he would have turned Sunderland down, but I think he's looking for something a bit closer to his south coast base.
     
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  2. Boss

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    You would think a job in the premier league would be more important then finding work near home.
    Unless he wants to take out time from the game and isn't fussy.

    I was looking at the teams which have been in a dogfight and survived, they employed managers like Redknapp, John Gregory, Bryan Robson, Keegan, Curbishley, Hodgson......old fashioned managers with experience.

    Thats why I feel Sunderland need a pullis type appointment.
     
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  3. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Pulis seems to want another job like the one that he started at Stoke, judging by his recent comments to the media.
    Building up a club on and off the pitch and pushing them to a level that they're not used to operating at. Pretty commendable, if true.

    Wonder where he'll end up?
     
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  4. Boss

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    Bolton! freedman is in danger of being sacked and they would embrace his style.
     
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  5. O.Spurcat

    O.Spurcat Well-Known Member

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    There will be a few jobs available in the Championship soon. Freedman, as you say, will go. So too will Mowbray at Boro, Jones at Wednesday and probably Lomas at Millwall.
     
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  6. Spurlock

    Spurlock Homeboy Forum Moderator

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    Spurs? Judging from our nose bleeds?

    <yikes>
     
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  7. PowerSpurs

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    I see Jack Wilshere has been talking out of his arse again. A good player but a complete tit.
     
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  8. cini65

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    Actually read what he said?
     
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  9. totsfan

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    the German team has non germans playing for them,one of them your very own Poldolski,he is Polish,and Gomez is,so why not England,we have them in athletics and cricket
     
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  10. littleDinosaurLuke

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    What is English? We are a nation of immigrants like the U.S. - it's just that many of our supposedly "indigenous" Anglos came here 1,000 years ago or more. Romans, Vikings, Normans, Celts, Anglo-Saxons, Poles, Ukranians, Indians, then virtually every country in the world have formed the "English".

    If you want true Englishmen, you'd need to go back to the neanderthals - which would guarantee Wilshere's place in the team, at least.
     
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  11. Diego

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    That fellow Ozil is Turkish i believe!
     
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  12. Wandering Yid

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    Exactly. If a player wants to represent England, is good enough, and is eligible, I say let him. If they've played for our national team the chances are these players are going to be spending the rest of their lives in England, having their children here, paying our taxes etc.

    This isn't the nineteenth century, in the world today people are more or less free to choose which country they live and belong in. If someone chooses to take the brave leap to try to make something of themselves in our country, and succeeds, that represents a far more British trait than Wilshere's isolationist ideology.
     
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  13. notsosmartspur

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    Well done Hobbit <doh> how thick is that div!, a statement from Jacks world where everyone has parents the same nationality, where does his theory leave players with parents from two nations, is there a compulsory parent nationality?, with residency not applicable in Jacks world, are these players destined to not be eligible to play international football. Perhaps he's a UKIP member.
     
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  14. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I think he's heard about the vacancy at the EDL and wants in! <laugh>

    Honestly though, I just think that he doesn't like the naturalisation rules, which allow players to become eligible when they move to a country and stay for 5 years and/or marry a local.
    I'm sure that many people agree with him about that, as it does seem a little bit of a detour from what international football is supposed to be, in my opinion.

    Atletico Madrid's Diego Costa seems to have sparked this debate in the media, as he's decided to switch from his native Brazil to Spain.
    He's already played in 2 friendlies for the South Americans and qualifies as he's been a resident since 2007.
     
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  15. PowerSpurs

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    It seems right to me that your country is defined by whose passport you have. If you've got two or more then you can choose. There will always be people who 'abuse' this but its really no big deal.

    Of course it's more complex for England, Scotland, Wales and NI because they all share a British passport so there needs to be additional rules.
     
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  16. cini65

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    Issue we've got is that being 'good' enough to play for England doesn't make you good :emoticon-0101-sadsm
     
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  17. Boss

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    I finally managed to watch motd and watching the Arsenal game. Few points.

    West Brom outplayed and out fought them.

    At 1 nil. West Brom had clear chances to make it 2 or 3 nil.

    The arsenal back four was all over the place.

    Arsenal scored from a deflected goal.

    West Brom should have had a blatant pen.

    So the only difference between our game and the goons was West Brom never took their chances. Arsenal got a lucky goal but where second best for most of the game.
     
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  18. notsosmartspur

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    I agree, ideally you would want a team of....now there's the elusive term!, what would you call it?!

    To extend what I said in post#513, how does he account for Danny Welbeck say, born in Manchester, but both parents Ghanaian, what if he'd been born in Ghana and brought here as a newborn/very young child and still had the same life till now, would Jack say he is Ghanaian and not eligible for England?

    There's so many instances where one rule would benefit some and discriminate against others, its a minefield! and one the Hobbit should steer clear of.
     
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  19. littleDinosaurLuke

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    I think PNP is implying that some footballers are choosing to become naturalised (through residency) simply to be able to play for a country of choice. That could be seen as a cynical manipulation of the rules. It's a criticism which has been levelled at the Saffers in the England cricket team, amongst others.

    But with so many people able to move relatively freely between nations to live and work these days, the concept of nationality has changed and I don't have any difficulty with naturalisation. We don't have mass immigration like we did 100-150 years ago when, for example, millions of Irish moved to the U.S. and became citizens there. We now have smaller numbers of upwardly mobile people and refugees. There are representatives of virtually every country in the world in London. If they settle here, they are rightly allowed to become citizens of the U.K. I suspect that if England had a player of Somalian heritage who was as good a footballer as Mo Farah is a distance runner, Wilshere might have had different thoughts on the subject.
     
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  20. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    It would be quite interesting to hear what Mo Farah, himself a Goon, thinks of Wilshere's comments, Lidls.
     
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