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Harry Inside the most toxic dressing room in football

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by kiwiqpr, Oct 9, 2013.

  1. devonqprboy

    devonqprboy Well-Known Member

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    Remember he took Spurs from being relegation fodder to Champions League in a few seasons and if we go up, invest soundly in players and a new stadium who knows where we could end up.
     
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  2. Stroller

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    Of course the players are mostly to blame, followed by MH for signing them and TF for indulging him. What grates with HR is that he never seems to accept that any of the blame should be pointed his way. He is also incapable of keeping his mouth shut - it is an insult to the club that he includes passages about last season in this draft of his AB, which could have waited until he was no longer an employee.
     
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  3. awjm

    awjm Well-Known Member

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    What did Mick Harford do?

    :biggrin:
     
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  4. Didley Squat

    Didley Squat Well-Known Member

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    Interesting observation there, FT
     
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  5. Flanman

    Flanman Well-Known Member

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    This is what shabby journalists do pick out a quote that they put someone down and overlooking the other 99%, not impressed!!
     
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  6. KPDHoopster

    KPDHoopster Well-Known Member

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    Agree, Harry, has a touch of the "teflon" about him, but his results/effort/humour, and his undoubted knowledge of football, means I am glad he is our manager.
     
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  7. Flyer

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    They werent relegation fodder. Just like Man U arent a mid table team and Saints arent a CL side.
     
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  8. sb_73

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    I'll have you know I was a ****ing good journalist, 30 years ago. :biggrin: This was the only line of self awareness in the article, it stood out like a sore thumb. The other 99% is not about him. I quoted it flat, no comment, you put the spin on it Flanners (that really is the work of a good journalist).
     
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  9. Flanman

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    I take it that is an apology then. ;)
     
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  10. devonqprboy

    devonqprboy Well-Known Member

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    What do you call 4 points adrift at the bottom of the table which is where they were when Harry took over. They also had a poor end of the previous season and with Ramos in charge they had relegation written all over them.

    On paper they shouldn't have been there but being good on paper means nothing.
     
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  11. Swords Hoopster.

    Swords Hoopster. Well-Known Member

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    I was reading this article in the pub yesterday: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...nd-Im-not-Englands-answer-to-Gareth-Bale.html (think you might have to sign in to the fu*king thing or something to read it though <steam>)

    Now I know players often can talk the talk but mightn't walk the walk but I think this lad is genuine and he knows what it takes to make it. Contrast that attitude with Taarabt and there you have the difference. Last season - and I said it at the time as well - Andy Townsend did more for us in a couple of months than Taarabt did in two years. He's what I call a "proper footballer". A guy with determination and an end product to his play which helps the team. Not a circus clown who thinks everything revolves around him and his stupid tricks that do nowte for the rest of the team but play them into trouble.

    Spurs and England have a "proper" player on their hands there and he'll do well that lad. No doubt about it.
     
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  12. Swords Hoopster.

    Swords Hoopster. Well-Known Member

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    Credit where credit is due. You were right Cruyff and hats off to you.

    Although, I must add, when Chrissy Hughton was being appointed your Manager and you was all slating him I told you he'd serve you well. He did great last year and you'll be mid-table again this year. Yes you're down table at the moment but just three points off United in 9th.

    You'll be fine.
     
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  13. KentGaz

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    I wonder if The likes of Boswanka, Adel and anyone else with an attitude problem would've got away with it if we'd had Joey at LR last year?
     
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  14. Flyer

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    How many games into the season was it? Five?

    Even now at double that many games, clubs are still in a false position. Are man u a mid table side? Are saints a cl side?
     
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  15. Cruyff's Turn

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    I don't think we need the fulllness do we? Lambert is a top drawer manager.Hughton BTW was my third choice after Mackay and Holloway.Swords,thanks for that.And I assure you I wasn't WUMing when I slated Hughes.I always thought him overrated. Had you appointed a manager I rated I would have said that too.

    As has been observed by your own posters on this thread the fault lay higher up in the club by allowing MH to get away with it.
     
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  16. devonqprboy

    devonqprboy Well-Known Member

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    They had amassed a whole 2 points from 8 games and had only won 3 times in the league since the previous Februray. I stand by my statement, they were prime relegation candidates until Harry came in.
     
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  17. Flyer

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    So then you must agree that man u are only a mid table side and saints are set for the cl, everyone could see spurs were in a false position, it wasn't some miraculous turnaround. Same goes for man u, say they sacked Moyes, a new manager comes in and gets them to the CL. He is not a miracle worker who got a mid table side in the cl.
     
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  18. devonqprboy

    devonqprboy Well-Known Member

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    Man U are underachieving at the moment. Saints are definitely punching above their weight at the moment, will they sustain it we shall see. They may keep going like Newcastle did a couple years back or plummet like Blackpool did. Personally I think they will fall back and finish a comfortable mid-table position.

    However, my point about Spurs stands. They may have been underachieving but the form they were in and the confidence (or lack of) in the dressing room placed them in pole position for relegation. You seem to be suggesting that they would have not got relegated if Ramos had stayed their simply because they were Tottenham. Ramos may have been able to turn it around but probably not, they needed someone to come in with new ideas to turn it around and that was Harry. Last year our first choice 11 would not have looked out of place in the Champions League (we had 4 players who had actually won it) but because very few of the tossers actually wanted to play for us we went down the toilet. Having a big name with big stars does not make you immune from the drop if you cant perform on the pitch.
     
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  19. Flyer

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    Where did spurs finish in the three years before and after, that should tell you their true position
    Your make it sound like redknapp performed a miracle. He didn't.

    Fair enough if he did it with a hull, Sunderland or palace but they were clearly in a false position. Proven by them not being there in any other season for decades.
     
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  20. superHusky1

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    Last season Redknapp played the hand he was dealt; this time he's managing to do it his own way. Thankfully HR's got hold of the situation and we're progressing nicely once again.

    Harry's obviously not to everyone's taste but I can't really see any profit in despising the guy. Won't affect him. Clearly the players now/still at the Club are responding in a positive manner and that tells its own story.
     
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