Again standing up for fans rights in Italy over the closure of Giusseppe Meazza for Milan's game with Udinese after regionalist chanting against Naples. http://www.football-italia.net/40383/fans-rebel-after-san-siro-closure Lets be clear this is NOT for racist chanting - as you may have read in UK press keen to ignore facts for any opportunity to denigrate Italian football - but more akin to us singing (for older fans) "In the Liverpool slums" or "sex case, sex case" at Boro or Darlo. And we cant get everyone to back action against a name change.....
Tightening up inside Italian grounds-esp bigger clubs is long overdue.They have been allowed to be s£it for far too long.Mind you some owners have been allowed to have sex with under age persons and others cheat all the fans with match fixing(both allegedly)
I seem to have upset you Agro.Don"t cry Petal The relevance to the thread is a lot of experience of grounds where spoilt adolescents(ultras) believe it is their right to behave in extreme bullying ways and get away with it.Good job someone is standing up to them IMO.Obviously some bullies might think discrimination is a good thing.I think I remember reading some such comments on a forum. Dummy in Agro!
So you actually think it would be fine if the KC was shut because at an AWAY gamwe we sang to opposition fans insulting regionalist chants? For example we sang to Liverpool fans "Sign on, sign on, with hope in your hearts etc, etc" or "I wanna go home, X is a ****hole"? Cos that is precisely what has just happened to Milan fans. Well if things carry on the way they are going you might get you wish one day of evertone filing into a stadium in silence, sitting on their hands, buying over-priced refreshements at half time and then walking out again in complete silence.
What are these 'territorial chants'? I notice none of the articles coming out of Italy mention a single one of the banned chants.
I love the atmosphere when the banter starts between fans.I am in e2. I would take the reported version of events in Italy a little less literally than you do. AC Milan are owned by Berlusconi.The biggest controller of the reporting media is Berlusconi.He does not like to be punished for wrong doing(see threat to bring down Italian government if he is forced to serve his minimal punishment for a huge crime-of recent times) Football stadia are still hot beds for political and racist extremists.The little group of ultras we have in the KC are a bunch of fashionable fans.It is very different if you are in the Curva of many Italian grounds. The light hearted banter between most clubs in this country would have a totally different significance if repeated just a over the border in Glasgow.
Basically anti southern chants highlighting the fact that the wealthy northern cities bankroll them. And that people from Naples smell. You might think Im joking about the latter but it's commonplace for oppo fans to wear those mouth masks that painters and decorators wear when visiting Napoli or indeed hosting their fans.
The spokesman of AC MIlan?I would not trust him if he was trying to sell me a car. Hard facts may be a little hard to come by.I should imagine appeals will be coming. If Berlusconi is found guilty of sex with a minor I expect this will be appealed also.
Berlusconi isnt the spokesperson for MIlan. He trakes a complete backseat role these days. For example he publicly stated he wanted Allegri sacked last season and he was overruled by the man in charge, Adriano Galliani.
That is if they have time to fit them in amongst the monkey noises ,The zingarro and the "Negro" chants.
It was Galliani I would not buy a car from.Do you think Berlusconi is not in charge?! I look forward to Nick Thompson telling the owners what is gonna happen at the KC!
I see they were singing about "Naples cholera-sufferers", in reference to the many thousands who'd died of Cholera in Naples. It strikes me as being way above 'we pay your benefits', more akin to singing Liverpool singing about the Munich disaster, or signing about Galatasary to the Leeds Fans.
Erm, yeah I do considering Berlusconi was publicly furious that Galliani refused to sack Allegri last season. Galliani is an exceptionally powerful man sitting on the FIGC, Thompson is a puppet.