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  1. Keith Fit

    Keith Fit Well-Known Member

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    I'd go for Steven Taylor as 1st choice, then MYM, then Willo. Cardiff play in a way that Willo can deal with; no disrespect to them, but they've only just come up and are more Championship than Prem, which is a style Willo understands. If Willo had've played against Everton, the result would have been the same, he'd have been turned inside out by Lukaku. Same applies to Liverpool - as I said on the match thread, Liverpool play low balls and are all about pace, movement on the deck. Willo against Suarez is a laughable match-up and I'd rather throw MYM back in than rely on Willo. The other problem is the fans are unlikely to berate MYM as quick as they'd get on Mike's back.
     
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  2. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Maybe we should just put Saylor back in. Willo is not really very good but a good organiser, MYM looks like he has all the tools but is a complete liability at present with zero communication skills. Saylor is a complete liability with a point to prove. Smallest of all evils. <laugh> Actually I've come up with a plan.

    6-3-1
    -------------------------Krul-------------------
    -------------------------Colo--------------------
    ---Debuchy - Saylor - Willo -MYM - Santon---
    -------------------------Tiote---------------------
    -------------------Cabaye - Anita-----------------
    -------------------------Remy--------------------

    This way Debuchy and Santons inability to spot when they are out of position will not matter. We'll get a bit of everything from each defender. Tiote will be there just in case. Anita and Cabaye can run about a bit and try to thread balls for Remy. Remy is an all time great who is basically carrying our attacking threat on his own anyway. Genius. Its like a modern day catenaccio. I toyed with idea of dispensing with Cabaye's silky skills in favour of playing Eliott but the rules say something stupid about only one goalkeeper (who came up with that silly rule)
     
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  3. Graham Carr's Binoculars

    Graham Carr's Binoculars Well-Known Member

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    Clearly the above post is tongue firmly in cheek, but I actually think you may be on to something.

    Liverpool love playing between the lines of defence and midfield, so why not line up 5-2-2-1...

    Krul
    Debuchy Williamson Colo MYM Santon
    Anita Tiote Sissoko
    Cabaye
    Remy

    It looks defensive, but it would match up with their wing back system, Debuchy and Santon have license to push on knowing they have the 3 cb's covering. You then tell your 3 dm's that one of them must always stay back, allowing the other two to break forward. With Remy as your out ball on the counter.

    We need to close off the space between defence and midfield, if we keep it tight for 60-70 mins we then have Ben Arfa, Cisse & Gouffran to bring on to trying and win the game. Asl of we're behind we then have them to bring on to chase the game. It will never happen but it's not the worst idea in the world and it's also not as defensive as it looks.
     
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  4. Beardsley's Rancid Sack

    Beardsley's Rancid Sack Well-Known Member

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    If we start Saylor on Saturday we will get even more smashed - he is more of a liability than anyone!
     
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  5. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    I don't know, its really close between Saylor/MYM/Santon/Debuchy. I wouldn't want to single any of them out unfairly as not being as good at being a complete liability. It seems very unfair given they have all shown they are very effective in this field.
     
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  6. Darth Plagueis

    Darth Plagueis Well-Known Member

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    I even used to think Saylor was better in the air than Willo, but when Willo comes back he shows what he offers. He wins a lot in the air and is a good aerial presence at the back. He can challenge the likes of Lukaku in the air and will be critical when it comes to handling Altidore vs Sunderland.

    He's also smarter than Saylor.
     
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  7. Keith Fit

    Keith Fit Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. But can we score from a corner?
     
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  8. Agent Bruce

    Agent Bruce Well-Known Member

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    Can he dance in front of the keeper as good as Saylor though?
     
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  9. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    So is Harvey Price though
     
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  10. 2010 tops dog

    2010 tops dog Well-Known Member

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    we played 3 holding midfielders last time and still got spanked, first line of defence is attack especially with the joke that is the back 4







    QUOTE=Pardew's P45;5450207]
    Clearly the above post is tongue firmly in cheek, but I actually think you may be on to something.

    Liverpool love playing between the lines of defence and midfield, so why not line up 5-2-2-1...

    Krul
    Debuchy Williamson Colo MYM Santon
    Anita Tiote Sissoko
    Cabaye
    Remy

    It looks defensive, but it would match up with their wing back system, Debuchy and Santon have license to push on knowing they have the 3 cb's covering. You then tell your 3 dm's that one of them must always stay back, allowing the other two to break forward. With Remy as your out ball on the counter.

    We need to close off the space between defence and midfield, if we keep it tight for 60-70 mins we then have Ben Arfa, Cisse & Gouffran to bring on to trying and win the game. Asl of we're behind we then have them to bring on to chase the game. It will never happen but it's not the worst idea in the world and it's also not as defensive as it looks.[/QUOTE]
     
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  11. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    [/QUOTE]

    I must admit all joking aside I think three holders would be crazy. I'd toy with only one change, Anita for Sissoko. I don't believe we need to go in with a ultra attacking or ultra defensive mentality. I think we need to go in a retain possession as much as possible mentality. If we just bomb on, they are great on the counter attack. If we sit in, the likes of Sturridge and Suarez are too clever between the lines. We need to show a bit guts, press them as much as they will us, and get a balance between attack and defence. I do think though that we need to press them hard and try to frustrate them. Suarez is still a walking red card if you wind him up right.
     
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  12. Boa

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    Hes ****e and ultimately He will keep his place and Liverpool will have another massive laugh
     
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  13. mag la rue

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    ... Suarez is still a walking red card if you wind him up right.[/QUOTE]
    The same could be said about Cabaye and Coloccini though. They both have history of sly fouls which lead to reds when the going gets tough. (even if on trial by TV).
    And Debuchy is a risk if his head goes after 60 mins of Sturridge and Suarez ****ing him around.
    Plus I don't think Pardew has "wind him up" or "target the player on a yellow card" in his tactical repetoire.
     
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  14. Agent Bruce

    Agent Bruce Well-Known Member

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    The same could be said about Cabaye and Coloccini though. They both have history of sly fouls which lead to reds when the going gets tough. (even if on trial by TV).
    And Debuchy is a risk if his head goes after 60 mins of Sturridge and Suarez ****ing him around.
    Plus I don't think Pardew has "wind him up" or "target the player on a yellow card" in his tactical repetoire.[/QUOTE]

    What does he have in his 'tactical repertoire'?
     
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  15. Agent Bruce

    Agent Bruce Well-Known Member

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    Anybody else experiencing odd happenings on the program or is it just me?
     
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  16. Hugh Briss

    Hugh Briss Well-Known Member

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    To be fair Tash, Mbiwa had such a stinker at Everton that even I could have been made to look good in the second half.

    Williamson is a squad player that can come in and do a short stint.

    Anything more and he is exposed as not being good enough to play regularly at PL level.
     
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  17. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter
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    Program?
     
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  18. mag la rue

    mag la rue Member

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    I dropped the ball taking the original quote from hacky sack. Deleted a bit of programme code so its messed the rest of it up.

    Anyway - Pardews book of tactics read:- pass it to the nearest man in a black and white shirt, if that doesn't work lump it to the furthest man in a black and white shirt.
     
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  19. Agent Bruce

    Agent Bruce Well-Known Member

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    Mick's program not606, what we're all using at the moment.

    A computer program, or just a program, is a sequence of instructions, written to perform a specified task with a computer.[1] A computer requires programs to function, typically executing the program's instructions in a central processor.[2] The program has an executable form that the computer can use directly to execute the instructions. The same program in its human-readable source code form, from which executable programs are derived (e.g., compiled), enables a programmer to study and develop its algorithms. A collection of computer programs and related data is referred to as the software.
     
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