There's not much to like about Stoke. The group of supporters I stumbled across a couple of seasons ago weren't the most affable lads I've ever met. I know every club has them, but they deserve Hughes.
So no doubt he will say that stoke won't be in the same position while he's in charge (higher or lower, lower me thinks sorry for stoke supporters already).
Looks like hughes has found his home, Stoke, a grey,humourless,dank, dark soul less town ...............and Mark hughes,a grey,humourless,***** dour soul less clown a marriage made in heaven i give it six months before it all ends in tears.
Stoke's strength has been their tenacity and spoiling game, if Hughes tries to adapt that they'll be well found out, I can see a long hard season for them...
Oh really mark? Tee hee, it all taking shape http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/220965/hughes-signings-split-dressing-room http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/220878/
Mark Hughes insists there will be no repeat of his QPR nightmare at Stoke - New Stoke manager Mark Hughes You'd would have thought he'd learn his lesson................the fool keeps putting the mocker on himself.
It will be richly ironic if Stoke are relegated, preferably on the last day of the season and we replace them going up as champions, preferably well before the last day of the season...
He's surviving at the moment ... just. Wait until January when he brings in more of "his own" players!
Read the threads, very interesting..............As Flyer says it does look like it is unravelling, oh dear what a shame. The bit about Hughes time here was the fact we really couldn't score goals....and it is exactly the same that Stoke fans are complaining about. What is it with Hughes' teams ( a striker of phenomenal ability in his playing days) that he cannot spot/cannot use/ cannot set up a system that scores goals....(and lets in goals and buys players who don't give a flying @@@@). I do not wish relegation on any team (supporters)...we so suffered last year, but I realise it must happen to three teams every year. But Hughes betrayed us (and I wore his shirt for a whole year, so I feel more betrayed than most and probably the most foolish too). There will be a small smile on my face if this does happen
The fact that he starts off both comments with the word "maybe", means he really does not know. So the only conclusion, MUST be:
I will feel sorry for my stoke neighbour(who pops over with beer every sunday) but I will laugh WHEN the project fails
Well summed up, Vern. Who knows? On a tenuous link to Nightmare Managers, for some reason I found myself recalling Trevor Francis' short tenure at the Rs. There was a lot of concern expressed at the time of his appointment that he'd be too nice and therefore wouldn't cut it as a player-manager. It then seemed like he took that point on board and set out to be unpleasant to his players from the off. Who was it that he fell out spectacularly with, was it Martin Allen when he was about to become a father?
Yes it was martin & i thought it was disgraceful by francis, don't think martin lasted much longer as an Rss player after that.
The guy is a deluded prick, that can be OK for players but not managers. Hes also very standoffish which is not a good thing for team spirit. Neither is the constant refusal to accept any blame, we all know what the players are thinking when he loses to a tactical blunder but then he blames the ref. In the end, they will refuse to play for him which is whatwe saw.
I totally agreed with Francis on that one. Trapatoni dropped Irish players from the squad for abandoning their team to go and watch their wives give birth and he was well within his rights to do so. Problem is, modern players are more like women themselves than their wives are and Managers have to treat them very gently these days. Its lamentable but its necessary for Managers in this day and age to try and not upset them because they'll throw their toys out the pram. Sir Alex Ferguson said that contemporary footballers are more likely to cry if you rollick them than take it on the chest like in decades past. A sad state of affairs indeed.
Very !! Not sure, but somewhere after feminism, and the advent of men getting in touch with their feelings, and the imposition of health and safety ... There was a massive over-reaction, and we have lurched into the current abyss.
Sorry you won't ever get me to join on Hughes bashing and its time to move on. About time QPR fans looked at themselves in all of this Hughes didn't take us down Change, the players, HR and the LR fans are more responsible IMO Stoke as a club have survived at this level because of their tactics and the last manager ... What may happen I don't care ... As a fan base I can confirm they are loud and get behind the team ... Couldn't say that last season at QPR .. Can't say it now either my last match at Brighton was a under the lights game and was dead as dead ... Talk about Stoke fans in a stereotype way ... More ****ers at QPR as at any ground