I do see Cest sentiments. Cuellar did alright last season with JoS holding his hand and organising the line but Cuellar was always the best of a bad bunch back then. With Bramble and Killgallon as other options it had to be Cuellar. They are a relegation center half pairing now imo and should never share the field again. Their collective lack of pace would struggle against a team of any level against fast forwards. Together they could still deal with direct football all day long but but nobody in this league are interested in playing direct football against anybody other than a top 6 side.
So are you saying that because they are your opinions that no others are relevant? My contention is that we have a very soft midfield with no bite (without the likes of a Cattermole who is just back from injury) and 2 non full backs playing full back which means they are often caught the wrong side of the winger and allow far too many crosses into the box. Opposition midfielders are afforded far too much time and space to cut through the centre of our team and expose the central defenders who if they had Usain Bolts pace would still suffer under. Pace isnt everything as a central defenders and some of the worlds best have not been blessed with pace - Bobby Moore, Tony Adams and the best of them all (IMO in the last 30 years) Franco Beresi was no pace merchant either. They could all read the game and so can Cuellar (good tackler as well) and JOS (major negative is his distribution not his defending). If any of the aforementioned top class players actually played in front of our midfield (/Vaughan/Larsson) they'd have suffered as well. If we went with a midfield with Catts and Colback at the heart and Johnson, Ki & Giacherinni behind Altidore today, we'd offer protection to the defenders and if we played Dossena and Celustka we'd also have proper full backs to stop central defenders being pulled out of shape. You defend as a team and attack as a team or you will be bottom of the league with one point and a lousy defensive record. That's precisely where we are today. Banks of 4 and no matter the 'modern thinking' behind tactical decisions the basics will always be this. Our shape at times under PDC was absolutely shocking and confusion reigned everywhere. He was about as tactically astute as a brain dead blonde haired glamour models. Your opinion is not definitive mate and neither is mine but it is as relevant as yours having watched and played thew game for over 40 years as well.
i think you are missing the point here sess , these two should not both be side by side in the team, as individuals as you say yes but not as a duo
Just to make a separate point, I haven't just transferred to WBA or been banned from driving either. I'm not actually missing any points here tbh. I would rather we had better defenders, midfielders and strikers and its a combination of failings in all areas that is our problem. There is no guarantee that Diakite or Roberge would have made any difference at all last week. Ballys has gone with experience and players he knows having worked with Cuellar, JOS and Catts. He doesnt know Diakite or Roberge and doesn't have a long term remit to get to know them. If he had played one of them and we had conceded 3 or 4 goals you would have slaughtered him for being inexperienced and risking too much. He cant win at all. We went to the lions den at Sid James with these 2 and won 3-0. We played our bogey team in Everton with these 2 and won 1-0. Yes they make mistakes as does every footballer but they are not singularly responsible for our pitiful position today and if they play together today I will expect them to do their best again. Our problems are a ****ty midfield pot to play with, weakened by letting Alfie go with no replacements and relying on Larsson and Vaughan to step up. They are both slower than Cuellar and JOS put together.
Here we go again with the opinion thing. Mate, it's called debate. I'm enjoying it with you. I've not been rude to you, you haven't been rude to me. Surely the sentence you've highlighted proves I take on board peoples opinions. Are you suggesting I'm not allowed to disagree with you and if I do I'm suppressing your opinion? If not what are moaning about? Same old boring **** with you Cest. We have some cracking debate and then you get all touchy. maybe you could go and have a **** and give yourself some relief or something? I agree with you regarding their being a problem with the midfield, I was discussing the CB situation (which is a dire situation IMO and clearly is for others) because that's the direction posters had developed the thread and the OP had referenced the defence himself. Regarding the Midfield i've said on other threads I'd like Colback to move back central with Catts (as soon as Dossena is fit) and Ki moving further forward up the pitch into his natural position. Only problem with that is of course is that Giacc would have to move back to the left after impressing off the front man, but it's still a change I would enforce and play a 433/451 variable like the rest of the league is playing. We have problems all over the pitch fella and I'm happy to chat about them all. The thread was leaning in the direction of defensive frailties so I went with it. I'm very sorry if you disagree with my opinion, but as you're so keen point out we are entitled to it. Let's just hope you can continue the debate and keep the toys in the pram eh?
there are no other posters on here who agree with this selection apart from you , but thats your choice , if we have the same pairing today it will be balls choice as well, and he is making the call,time will tell
âPersonally,I thought Cabral did well against Fulham but there was a view that he wasnât doing enough in training to warrant his selection ahead of others, and thatâs his challenge. âHeâs a good player but he needs to do more.â Disgraceful having a go at a player in public, he clearly needs an arm round the shoulder and this should be kept behind closed doors ffs! If someone did this in my office and had a go at someone in public the workforce would be in uproar. Terrible way to manage!!!!!!!!! Oh wait it was Bally not PDC, good man management Bally!
IMHO Bally's doing a job for the boys that help him as no doubt the board, chairman are expecting nowt out of the Liverpool Man U games anyway but is keeping the dressing room happy and raising his profile as a sort of sedation as he did back in 2005/6. Revolting players 6 games into a season, managerless with a host of names put forward that would make the hairs on the back of your knob cringe, the man fancies his chances but in all honesty and in my opinion would relegate our club. I have read the posts all week with a shake of the head and cannot believe that Reidy's name is in the frame either. Who we get, I don't know but these 90's hero's are not the answer..
Presactly. I can understand younger fans wanting back to the old days of our last glimmer of hope, as for a lot of Reidy's time it was peaches and cream. We badly needed to move forward at that time and invest, what actually happened was the usual SAFC we flattered to deceive and slowly but surely went backwards. Those of us that were there, know how bad it became.
People do forget the bad times and the lager that was chucked over Reid was through his insistence to play Kilbane after he stuck two fingers up at the fans. They forget the Carsten Freigaards that Ball said he would stick fingers up his backside if he ever made a prem player or words to that effect and the Milton Nunes **** of watching a lad on dvd and buying someone completely different. Yeah, Reidy did give me personally a lot of good times as a fan but football moved on and he didn't. Like the man, bought me a beer one night in Yarm and as a gent I bought him one back but as the answer now then they may as well employ you MR..
eh what? What PDC said was harsh and destructive crticism (or could be seen that way) to certain players, Ball is saying he is a good player but needs to show more in training. hardly the same imo.
So you honestly think this was harsh and destructive criticism? "Our leader didn't react in the way he should. That is terrible because it was a crucial game for us," said Di Canio. "The penalty didn't come from a dangerous situation. It's absolutely poor and not acceptable. "It was difficult to see this goal at this level. John O'Shea did something really wrong but he is an experienced footballer. "It won't determine the outcome of our season but if we don't think every ball could be crucial, then it could be a problem." JOS is doing it again today with his casualness at the back and nearly gifted RVP by not just clearing the ball. They are the mistakes that cost games ffs!
sorry cest but today was further proof that celluar and jo should never be paired together again ,even you must recognise this now
