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Danny Graham vs. Brady's penalty

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Tubby AKA Ableton (Mwah), Sep 29, 2013.

  1. ellewoods

    ellewoods Well-Known Member

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    I disagree. If Graham gets a run at goal and doesnt get a shot off because he was fouled I got no problem with him taking the shot he should have had. Graham is a striker he can score a penalty or he shouldnt be on the pitch. Brady can be the designated penalty taker and still make way.

    So far he has taken 2 penalties. One that Sagbo earned when Graham wasnt on the pitch and one that he earned. We do not know if Brady is even the designated peanalty taker. Graham might be and Brady said, I earned it I take it and Graham made way.
     
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  2. Horsham_Tiger

    Horsham_Tiger Well-Known Member

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    I can't believe we are even being awarded penalties!
     
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  3. Chilton's Hundreds

    Chilton's Hundreds Well-Known Member

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    We've had 3 in our last 4 home games !

    Can't remember the last one before that !
     
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  4. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

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    <laugh> Isn't that pretty much an accurate summary of how every penalty shootout works?
     
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  5. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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    Only when the game is won would you consider such acts. Brady should take them.
     
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  6. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    He has for us! They were shocking which is weird because he's go great technique when it comes to open play and freekicks.
     
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  7. Quill

    Quill Bastard

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    Fair enough. <laugh>
     
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  8. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes things are over-analised - he beat the keeper, as he scored a goal.
     
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  9. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    If Brady had waited until the goalkeeper went one way and then placed it the other way I would say that's a good penalty.

    But Brady didn't do that. He placed it three or four yards to one side of the goalkeeper and hoped the goalkeeper dived the other way.

    Statistics are to be understood not trotted out mindlessly.
     
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  10. Leon T Trout AFC

    Leon T Trout AFC Well-Known Member

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    Not trying make some banal and predictable Samson analogy, but I've got unfounded but genuine fears that Hudd will turn **** if he cuts his hair.
     
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  11. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    The managers designates the penalty taker; Yid Vicious is spot on with his post. This malarkey about it being a case of the players effectively arguing their case is daft - the skipper may make a change, but he'd better have a bloody good reason.
     
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  12. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    Nonsense.

    Edit: A goal is eight yards wide and the GK will be occupying one of those yards leaving 3.5yds to either side of him. By your own reckoning (I presume you watched it) he has aimed for and placed the ball in the final half yard near the post, which would make it a beautiful strike. The rest of us know it wasn't so tight, but still a bloody well taken penalty. <doh>
     
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  13. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    I agree with PLT.

    You practice trying to beat the goalkeeper even if he goes the right way. If the goalkeeper doesn't dive and you try a "Brady tap" three or four yards to one side the goalkeeper saves it. The kicker should aim to kick the ball with power just inside the post.

    Another way is to hope the goalkeeper dives early and then you can just tap it in the other side. If the goalkeeper doesn't dive then you have to be able to change your plan and kick the ball just inside the post but you don't need so much power.

    The above isn't over analysis and it isn't blindly saying the same penalty taker should take the kicks until he misses.
     
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  14. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    This is a penalty. Note that Foster dives early, goes the right way and gets a long way across his goal but still gets nowhere near it.

    [video=youtube;TQsnRdcXSDk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQsnRdcXSDk[/video]
     
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  15. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    That complete lack of logic doesn't make your case at all. I'd much rather use brains than have to try to make up for the lack of them by coming out with one word.
     
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  16. Quill

    Quill Bastard

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    Stuart Pearce vs Spain at Euro 96 is the best way to take a pen. Smash it as hard as possible right into the corner, then celebrate like a psychopath.
     
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  17. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    I first edited it before you posted this., which makes you a bit of a dick.
     
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  18. Summerof69

    Summerof69 Well-Known Member

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    Hmm, a rather pompous statement. I hardly think that suggesting that we shouldn't over analyse the fact that a player has taken two penalties, seemingly using the same approach and has found the net by sending the keeper the wrong way both times, can be equated to mindlessly trotting out statistics!

    However, how do you know Brady didn't have a view of the keeper out of the corner of his eye until the moment he saw him move, unless you've been busily freeze-framing the precise moment he strikes the ball on the MOTD coverage? By the way, the goalkeeper doesn't actually have to have dived for Brady to know which way to put the penalty, he only needs to see him shift his weight in one direction to know that he won't be able to come back the other way in time, even if it was a bluff.

    As far as I'm concerned, until someone can prove otherwise, I'm happy to believe that Brady is waiting for the keeper to move before putting the ball into the opposite side of the net.
     
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  19. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;E0OCRrvMBpA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=E0OCRrvMBpA[/video]
    This is a 'Brady Tap', is it? Well hit, GK wrong way, goal. What's to dislike? That's West Ham.

    [video=youtube;8rjWIclEOpw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rjWIclEOpw[/video]

    This is West Ham - very well placed, low, out-and-out power sacrificed for accuracy - and GK the wrong way, again. What more do you want other than a machine taking them. try employing these brains you brag about you ****ing buffoon. See it's easy to name call.

    I agree, it is a sublime penalty, but that does not make Brady's penalties poor. if you really want to analyse it, consider the margin for error on the GK's RH upright - so close to a ping in or out (how many times have you seen that??).

    Here's real power for you, works every time; even for ****ers like this poor excuse of a player <whistle>

    [video=youtube;6DS-gDP59AU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6DS-gDP59AU[/video]

    But of course, you mentioned Stuart Pearce (I loved his commitment), this shows how easy it is and how hard it can be - if a player wants to take a penalty and then scores, don't nit-pick his style, just rejoice that he has the confidence that success brings and that can be contagious - unless of course, you are behind a keyboard.

    [video=youtube;E0OCRrvMBpA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=E0OCRrvMBpA[/video]
     
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  20. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    I don't think anyone is anti-Brady taking penalties or anything, we're just debating whether they've been going in through luck or a clever reading of where the keeper is going to dive because he hasn't been striking them hard or anywhere near the corner.
     
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