....Thus, since the old Stoke are gone we are becoming the new Stoke. Makes sense to me. If we're in a mess at Christmas you'll all agree with me and if not i'll be wrong but Norwich will be doing well so that's fine. If you want us to be an attractive mid table side like Southampton/ Swansea (which is the path we were on) Hughton has to go sooner rather than later. If you're happy for us to be a Fulham/Stoke lower mid table unattractive side then back him to stay.
So after five games you have come to this rash and knee jerk opinion. A bit too soon, every manager deserves a chance to play with a squad of his choice, so lets give him that. Our full support and a chance to succeed.
This piece by Chris Young illustrates your point fairly well, Fenland http://norwichcity.myfootballwriter...-ahead-of-sundays-road-trip-to-the-potteries/
I'm not saying I necessarily agree with NSATP, but I'd hardly call it "knee jerk" if his opinion stems from the football being played last season, even though you could argue Hughton hasn't truly figured out the intricacies 'his squad' yet.
Quit the stereotypes Fenland there's nothing "rash or knee jerk" about my opinion. I'm not accusing you of being "happy clappy and deluded" because you're backing him. After watching a full season (and I mean pretty much 90 minutes of every game we played) last year I formulated an opinion that Hughton wasn't a good manager. I understand why we didn't sack him at the end of last season because that might have been "rash and knee jerk". Unfortunately I've invested a lot of time in what Hughton has to offer already and I wouldn't see the point in investing anymore time in him. You could give he man 20 years and I doubt "having his own squad" would have helped him at all. He doesn't get the best out of players and you can tell that just by watching and listening to them. Football is a business and being positive and upbeat is not a strategy for success. Whilst I always think that fans should stay on side during a game (booeing moaning etc does nothing to help a football team) I expect McNally's axe will come down pretty quick if the performances don't pick up.
My comparison to Stoke wasn't meant in terms of style of play rbf.(I could argue that at least they had an attacking plan but won't because I would never want us to resort to that.) I meant more that our style of football is making us discredited and unfashionable around the country. Overheard a conversation in Welcome Break on Saturday where a Villa fan said "Don't worry lads they never play to win a game of football anyway." I couldn't really argue with him on that. I just really worry that Hughtons obsessive schooling and tactical orders have put the shackles on our players. But this is just a forum and these are just my opinions. No need for anyone to be foaming at the mouth right now.
I think it's more about giving him the chance to play with a team he has selected, last season he didn't have the chance to do that so we can't really judge him as a manager until he's played the squad of his choice, not one he's inherited.
Can I ask you how many Newcastle matches you watched when he managed them; and how many Birmingham City matches? Even if at some point our board decide to terminate his contract, it will not prove that "Hughton [isn't] a good manager", any more than being sacked by Abramovich at Chelsea meant that Villas Boas isn't a good manager (or countless other examples). All it would mean is that CH didn't manage to solve the particular problems he inherited when he took the job (just fifteen months ago incidentally) and meet the targets set for him in the time scale the board were prepared to allow him; any more than Villas Boas or Di Matteo managed to solve the problems they inherited at Chelsea in similar circumstances.
Robbie, myself and JWM stated before he was appointed your boss that birmingham was one of the worse sides we faced in the championship, it was well known 99% of his tactics was to sit deep, bang it long to zigic and hope for a set piece, to then bang it in to zigic in the area and hope for something. They were definately the most negative side to come to portman road that season. as for newcastle, a certain andy carroll is ridiculed on this site for being crap, yet it was a certain chris hughton who placed all his faith in him. Again this to use the target man tactic.
Saw this on newsnow yesterday, and read it there. I was hoping someone might put it on here, but it wasn´t going to be me, with my obvious Pro-Hughton tendencies, but needless to say I agree with every word. It certainly deserves to be read, and certainly deserves as much if not more air space than the one you did post.
So because you saw one game at Portaloo Road you're suddenly more of an expert on him than th thousands of Brummie and Toon fans that all think he was excellent! Where did you obtain this super-knowledge?
I find that difficult to believe for several reasons: (a) Zigic missed nine games out of the season (20% of games missed) (b) Zigic was substituted on 15 times and off 16 times (meaning he played 1740 minutes out of a season of around 4000 minutes of football - or 43.5% of their playing time) (c) Zigic scored just 11 out of 78 Birmingham city goals scored that season (and as an aside, Birmingham had an average of 1.77 goals a match and an end of season goal difference of +27) Given that two of his 11 goals came against Ipswich, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt this time and assume that you are just talking from a basis of complete ignorance of Birmingham's matches other than against Ipswich. Without that excuse, it would otherwise appear that you were, as usual, simply trying to stir and spread more bigoted lies and half truths all in aid of your consistent, pathetic, wumming.
@Guru Maybe you can help me. I'm really struggling to decide which of RvW and Hooper is our target man. Maybe though it's Becchio, who we haven't seen much of; could HE actually be the secret long ball weapon. Or Elmander? Andy Carroll and Zigic were in the squads that CH took over from other managers. At Birmingham he was not able to bring players in, he had to go with what he had and any free signings he could make. At Newcastle his task was to get them straight back up from the Championship, in which campaign making use of Andy Carroll made perfectly good sense. This summer he has, for the first time, had the chance to sign the type of attacking players he himself wanted. Has he signed Andy Carroll? Did he go for Zigic? Did he actually bring in "a target man"? Er, actually no. I don't know what conclusion you want to draw, but I know what mine is.
