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Spare Parts (F1 odds and ends)

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Masanari, Sep 22, 2011.

  1. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    Look at the stories that have come out today.

    Alonso unsettled, McLaren publicly inviting Alonso back etc etc.

    The bit about Alonso's post that raises a big hariy Alonson sized eyebrow is "once they decided not to keep Felipe, they asked me what I thought". Suggests he had no input in the Massa decision.
     
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  2. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    Lol, Alonso a bit pissed off:

    BBC Sport's chief F1 writer Andrew Benson in Singapore:
    "Ferrari's Fernando Alonso starts only seventh here, out-qualified by team-mate Felipe Massa for the fifth time in 12 races this season. Ferrari sources have quietly let it be known this season that they feel Alonso does not always get the best out of the car in qualifying. This was a reason they signed Kimi Raikkonen for 2014, to push him harder out of what they believe may be his comfort zone. But it was clear on Saturday that this perception is getting to Alonso. The Spaniard pointed out afterwards that Massa had previously always been known as a strong qualifier - besting Raikkonen when they were Ferrari team-mates, for example - but that in their four years at Ferrari, he had out-qualified Massa 82% of the time. The fact that he brought it up - and that he knew the exact number - speaks volumes."
     
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  3. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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  4. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    From Alonso's body language he holds no real anger or frustration with Kimi coming in, but he seemed more pissed by the media's stigma of himself that he will fall off the rails and flip against Ferrari sooner or later.
     
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  5. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Thats just showing off!

    [video=youtube;0Cykz8Pg0Ds]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cykz8Pg0Ds[/video]
     
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  6. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I? Forum Moderator

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  7. DHCanary

    DHCanary Very Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Because I can't just post amusing Lotus stuff and not give Ferrari any credit when they do something:

    please log in to view this image
     
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  8. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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  9. RoadRunner

    RoadRunner Well-Known Member

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  10. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    So nothing was ever wrong with the wind tunnel just making up excuses?
     
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  11. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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  13. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    We thought McLaren were next in line to get a 1000km tyre test with Pirelli, but it's actually Ferrari! According to Pius Gasso, De La Rosa is at Barcelona today doing the 1000km test.
     
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  14. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Isn't this Ferrari's third test this season. Nice to see things nice and even for a change <doh>
     
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  15. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    Didn't Whitmarsh say during Singapore they were testing next?
     
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  16. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    At the Korean Grand Prix Fernando Alonso could become the most successful driver in the history of the Formula 1 world championship. And if he doesn't do it there, it's inevitable he will do so before the season is out.

    By most metrics, the Spaniard is already recognised as an all-time great thanks to his two world titles, 32 victories and close to 100 appearances on the podium. But he is also on the brink of becoming number one on points scored.

    If he wins or finishes second in Korea, Alonso will leap ahead of Michael Schumacher at the top of the list. A third place will put him level with the German's haul of 1566 points.

    http://plus.autosport.com/premium/feature/5592/what-do-f1-points-mean-anyway/

    The natural reflex is to dismiss this achievement. In real terms, changes to the points system - particularly the shift to 25 points for a win in 2010 - renders his achievement meaningless when comparing it with others.

    The points system, the longevity of today's drivers, the number of races in a season and the reliability of current machinery overwhelmingly loads the dice in favour of contemporary racers.

    Eight of the top 15 all-time scorers are active, while a further two have raced under the current scoring system. What's more, eight of them are also in the top 15 most prolific race-starters, the least experienced in the list being Sebastian Vettel with 114.

    Top F1 points scorers:

    1. Michael Schumacher, 1566
    2. Fernando Alonso, 1551
    3. Sebastian Vettel, 1301
    4. Lewis Hamilton, 1064
    5. Jenson Button, 1053
    6. Mark Webber, 978.5
    7. Kimi Raikkonen, 935
    8. Alain Prost, 798.5
    9. Felipe Massa, 791
    10. Rubens Barrichello, 658
    11. Ayrton Senna, 614
    12. David Coulthard, 535
    13. Nico Rosberg, 515.5
    14. Nelson Piquet, 485.5
    15. Nigel Mansell, 482

    [HR][/HR]

    Top F1 points scorers based on today's points system:

    1. Michael Schumacher, 3890
    2. Alain Prost, 2470.5
    3. Fernando Alonso, 2394
    4. Rubens Barrichello, 1892
    5. Ayrton Senna, 1859.5
    6. Kimi Raikkonen, 1854
    7. David Coulthard, 1726
    8. Nelson Piquet, 1672
    9. Jenson Button, 1664.5
    10. Nigel Mansell, 1500
    11. Sebastian Vettel, 1491
    12. Lewis Hamilton, 1439
    13. Gerhard Berger, 1409.5
    14. Mika Hakkinen, 1382
    15. Niki Lauda, 1337

    [HR][/HR]

    Average points per finish based on current scoring system:*

    1. Alberto Ascari, 19.23
    2. Juan Manuel Fangio, 18.55
    3. Jackie Stewart, 17.60
    4. Alain Prost, 17.28
    5. Ayrton Senna, 17.22
    6. Jim Clark, 17.06
    7. Michael Schumacher, 16.14
    8. Stirling Moss, 15.55
    9. Sebastian Vettel, 15.53
    10. Giuseppe Farina, 15.46
    11. Nigel Mansell, 15.31
    12. Niki Lauda, 15.02
    13. Jochen Rindt, 14.32
    14. Damon Hill, 14.17
    15. Mike Hawthorn, 13.83

    18. Alonso 13.53
    22. Hamilton 13.45
    27. Raikkonen 12.70
    93. Webber 8.26
    *minimum 100 points 'scored'
     
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  17. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    Modern drivers also benefit from massively improved reliability compared to their coutnerparts of days gone by, so all points comparisons are almost meaningless unless you bring back in the points lost through reliability failues (as opposed to driver error).

    Senna, Piquet, Mansell & Prost would all have a lot more points if their respective cars through their careers had the reliability of today. Also less races in a season back then, just 16 on average so a driver would do less races in their careers before they got too old (or in Mansell's case forgot that he was too old)
     
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  18. RoadRunner

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    Provisional Calendar has been updated with a massive 22 Grand Prix!

     
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  19. TomTom94

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    Still think that two Grands Prix will drop off the calendar.
     
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  20. Forza Bianchi

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    Well Autosprint and Mundo Deportivo have reported today that Ferrari are tyre testing in Barcelona. Yet Ferrari are denying it. They're definitely doing something there because Pius Gasso doesn't lie. Perhaps he's mistaken and it's a Corse Clienti event, or maybe Ferrari are lying.
     
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