TORY PARTY using the tactics of 1930s Nazi Germany.

I was thinking of a more moderate uprising. For the good of all.
A transparent government with greater accountability. Let the people make the big choices and force the treasury to put a percentage aside for the next generation to spend (and it must be ring fenced). Things like that.
Engage people with government again. I'm against violent protest though (from both sides).

Violence is an incomplete thought, coming to a complete stop.

 

Well you can see how fascist the government is.(Lib/Lab/Con) We really are becoming a totalitarian state, unfortunately violence would be the only option. As it has been throughout history, there is no such thing a peaceful uprising.

An apt quote from Simone Weil, "Oppression that is clearly inexorable and invincible does not give rise to revolt but to submission."

We submit or fight.

You might ask what is this Oppression, well it's subtle as intended. Oppression of the Colonialism type. This will wet my appetite to get some truth out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbpAXRfbE-A

 

I can't say I care for the government but a revolution forged in violence and hatred will lead to the same cycle again down the line. Someone will feel victimised or oppressed as a result of the previous revolution and the whole thing comes around again.

It's a bit cheesey but the GDP of Bhutan is measured in happiness. Who doesn't like being happy?

 

Yes this is an unfortunate side effect to every revolt. There can never be a utopia where everyone is happy. But as I see it the whole British culture is under attack. Pockets of resistance are emerging, we are fed up of being treated as second class citizens due to the pandering of newcomers. Welcome to Britain, fit in or **** off.

It should be assimilation into OUR culture not differentiation from OUR culture.

 

What culture? We are a multi-culture, describe your culture tom I don't recognise it, please don't include me in your 'we'. The 'culture' I grew up in was warm welcoming and celebrated hard work. The people who taught me, inspired me,fought and destroyed fascism, overturned racist cultures, broke down sexism, created a health service, put forward education for all, had standards, had a sense of community, were self reliant, self educating, did not sit back bleating but created change. Not in a violent way but through the ballot box.
What newcomers are you talking about? Blacks? Asians? Jews? Poles? Bulgarians? Europeans? Americans? Chinese? Irish? English? Scots? Do you think that I would assimilate with you? If not what would you do to me? Because I don't think like you, would you reprogramme me? Sterilise me? Your pockets of resistance are tiny and deluded, whenever these groups raise their heads they have been run out of towns all over the UK. Your notion of Britain is not one I know and hopefully be er will.

 

Your culture Gendros didn't have big business calling the shots as it is today, and in your day, politicians were men of integrity, not self serving as they are today, I think that both tom and stevejack make some very valid points, though I tend to think that nothing short of a cross between Guy Fawkes and Oliver Cromwell will do for what we have today, that is served up as leadership!.....................

 

Dragon cheers for support and well here it goes.

Gendros,

This will probably fall on blind eyes as it's clear you have already made up your mind about this wonderful idea of Multiculturalism. Oh and before I start, it's not a race I have a problem with, it's a seventh century set of barbaric ideals followed by 1.6 billion people that is now trying it's best to invade the west.

It's called ISLAM

What is Islam?
This guy answers this in a way I wouldn't be able to writing in this forum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9Ng4s1Mcn4c

Now these other peoples you mentioned, I would say a lot of them have tried to integrate into our society, learn the language and customs and are truly grateful to come here to better their lives. Good on them.

What does Islam do? Well first it segregates itself from the society it's invading. There are many Muslim controlled areas in Britain already, a soft form of Sharia Law is already in place. We infidels(non Muslims) are prohibited and threatened when entering these zones. So there are areas in Britain where we would be in serious trouble entering. What is Sharia Law? Well read these links, I'm sure this would be great for the tolerant British Culture.

http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/sharia-law.html
http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/uk-sharia-law.html

Out of fear of offending these people we are forced to eat Halal meat. It's everywhere, in our schools, hospitals, airlines, soon all meat in Britain will be halal meat. Do you know what halal meat is? I doubt it so I will explain. When the animal is slaughtered it is hung upside down, throat cut and while the animal is bleeding to death slowly, they chant a prayer to Allah. Very cruel as opposed to the traditional British way of firing a bolt into the animals brain making death instantaneous.

Shall I go on about the rape of 1000's of British Girls by Muslim gangs that hardly no one has heard of due to the government control of the BBC and other corrupt organisations. They fear the truth, they fear the uprising.

6%-11% of the British population are currently Muslim. The number is uncertain due to rife uncontrolled immigration. They out breed us, and are forcing their ideals into every facet of our culture.

There is so much more I could tell you, so much that would shock you. But alas I'm getting tired.

One thing I'm certain of, there are many others like me out there who know what's going on. The battle-lines are being drawn, I'm just trying to make sure you will be on the right side.

 

Don't patronise me racist, the overwhelming majority of Muslim people I meet are hardworking with a great sense of community and culture. What is your culture? Describe it to me. Your whole language speaks of descrimination, out breed, barbaric, uncontrolled. How do you think all animals are killed, they are all stunned and hung to bleed. You talk of Muslim rape yet say nothing of *****philia within the Catholic Church, The Anglican faith the boy scouts or anywhere else thee beasts, black white Asian or chinese raise their heads.
You have no need to worry about which side I and my family will be on the, side that has driven the likes of you out of these islands. Go speak like this in public and see how long you last.
It is no surprise to me Dragon that you side with tom, you claim to have had Jewish relatives who were affected by exactly this kind of thought process yet here you are condoning it. Your ancestors would be rolling in their graves. Yet why would I expect different from somebody who falsely accused someone of being a *****phile on a public forum. Shame on you and all others who are showing their true side on this thread.
Tolerance, change through the ballot box and democracy is the only way to provoke change, join a local party and start working for it to change society in the way you want. You would be surprise how easy it is to get put forward as a councillor and effect real change in your area. Not to take part is to promote apathy and apathy leads being taken advantage of, only around half of people in Wales vote, get 40% of that group and you would storm into power. Either do that or do nothing but accept your lot and bleat like Dragon et all.

 

Read something somewhere recently that struck me as very true. Left wingers view themselves as almost saintly and purely good, whilst right wingers are fundamentally evil. Right wingers view left wingers as simply misguided, or at the worst a bit thick.

Goes a long way to explain juvenile outbursts like the OP.

 

My experience of Islam is quite limited to a few friends and a wedding. The wedding though was much more happy, colourful and celebratory than traditional Christian weddings (especially Catholic which my family historically are) and we were made to feel welcome.

I agree that Islam in general is not pleasant but then I feel the same way about all monotheistic religions. Ban them all.

Anyway this whole thread is getting unsavoury and off topic...

 

So it's clear you didn't even look at the links I sent you. It's clear you have no idea what a racist is. It's clear that you have no idea of the corruption in the government, the control of the media and the manipulation of the vote.

You are so brainwashed into thinking that we should bend over backwards and take it up the butts all in the name of tolerance. I have no problem with other races coming here plying their trade and contributing, I do have a problem with Islam coming here with the intent to take over the country with their laws and brutality.

You think they like us, they want to belong to our society? They hate us. Do you want Sharia Law in all our towns and cities?

I tell you want gendros, take a walk through certain Birmingham areas at night. More than half the city is Muslim controlled. Won't be long where the Sharia law signs and control happens in Swansea, how would that make you feel? How could any rational mind welcome that into their cities.

Of course there are moderate nice Muslims out there, the very ones who left their respective hell-holes for a better life here. Shame they still adhere to the mindset of the countries they left, will ensure the Extremist Brotherhood will suck them back into the mire they tried to escape from.

You must really hate women if you want sharia law to take over the country. Oh sorry your Ignorance is bliss chip in your brain prevented you from reading the links I sent you so you have no ****ing clue.

Steve this is very much on topic really, the fascism is rife in the government. Labour first with the PC mindset shoved down our throats so we can accept the idea of a failed multiculturalism experiment. Then all the Lies and manipulation to get us to war, then the removal of rights due to terrorist act. The list goes on. The Tories have just continued what labour started. There is no difference between the parties.

The lone Rangel thinks we are evil for speaking up. What is more evil, intolerance of a group of people wanting to take over or Sharia law?

 

Oh and another thing Gendros why would I mention *****philia in other religions when these stories become front page news. Why did the BBC cover up the story? These attacks on our girls is coordinated and considering sharia law, they believe it's their right to take Virgins of the streets, groom them then abuse them. You are accepting of this? If you want proof I can give you proof.

Oh and Islam is made up of many other races. If anything I'm anti-religious, not racist. Your blind ignorance scares me, even when I present the facts to you, you still turn a blind eye.

 

The 'facts' you present are twisted reality, the people you refer to are discredited. You claim that the govt is fascist yet you yourself speak like a facist or is that national socialist. My wife and daughter have their rights protected by British law, they don't need me to speak for them because they think and speak for themselves. You are an abhorrent individual and thankfully very much in the minority.
When the Welsh/British Defence League held a rally in Swansea less than 50 turned up, I was one of 10,000 who protested against these fascists that day. They were rightly run out of town exposed as the despots they are. In the 1930's you will find that Moseley's Brown Shirts met with the same fate. My family helped fight and defeat facists in the last war I am proud to say, hopefully that family tradition will carry on.
Stevejack you ought to be ashamed of yourself for not outrightly condemning this individual, especially as you claim to be educated. All it takes for evil to happen is that good men do nothing. That is why you cannot absolve yourself by damaging your ballot.
Valley the above is an atrocious post, what are you going to do about it? I will not hold my breath.

 

The UAF are the biggest fascist group in the UK. They prevent others from protesting. Just like you are trying to do to me. Trying to get the mods to silence me, that is ultimately fascist. You don't even have the intellect to see this.

 

What seems to escape you is that fundamentally Sharia law is counter to everything you hold dear in Britain. All that tolerance will be thrown out the window. You and your ilk are the greater threat to these Isles.

 

Protest away tom, but I will protest against you, wherever you are, however you try to hide your despicable views. There are many, many more of us than you will ever be. Your evil has always been defeated and always will be, it is more fractured now than almost anytime in history. You are a keyboard warrior, you would not dare speak the way you do in public, you are a coward of the worst kind. When ordinary people see you in your true colours they turn in disgust. You are using an anti-muslim agenda to further your disgusting fascist agenda, people see through you.

 

I have no use for any law other than British law, British law will defeat your disgusting views.

 

Evil, what evil have I said. I see a threat to our way of life. Which is my right to speak about. How dare you try and gain the moral high ground. You are obviously trying to bait me by saying I'm a keyboard warrior. I have made no threats.

 

Do you realise what you are saying. Sharia law will become british law, so you accept everything about this. If you do then you are one ****ed up individual. Anyway I'm done with you, you are clearly mentally challenged.

 

One evil you speak of is Religous descrimination, you have designated one faith to project your twisted world view on. Just as the Nazi party did in Germany which resulted in the death of countless millions. You try to stereo type the whole of the Muslim faith with your malignant view, you try to hide your and your kinds inadequecies and failure within this stereotype. It will not work we, will see through you, we will challenge you we will defeat you wherever you are. We will do it with recourse to British Law, something unchanging and solid as a rock. Of course I have the high ground, you would not recognise it if you stood on it. You are in a moral bog, up to your neck and sinking. All right minded people will see you for what you are.