Trouble is I can't think of any proven players who would be available on loan. Most of them will be loaned out because they're not match fit, so will take time to get up to speed, or they're not good enough for their club, so need to be put in the shop window, or will have some sort of attitude problem. I can't believe we didn't sign both Rowe and Burke, in the case of the latter deciding to wait until his contract runs down before attempting to sign him, instead of stumping up £600,000 and having him now. It's embarrassing this small club mentality we've developed.
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-eye-swoop-for-striker-1-6075962 Becchio or Shane Long? Plus David Bentley... All unlikely to happen but if they all did I think top 2 would be a realistic target!
LIE, it is called trying to run a prudent business instead of throwing money around carelessly as many football clubs do and find themselves in poor financial shape all the time. Frustrating for us as fans maybe but better for all in the long run.
Theres an old saying in business"you have to speculate to accumulate". Zero investment will result in club going back ways. Absolutely pointless appointing a top class manager in McD and not backing him
Jonny, I'm not saying we should go down the Publicity Pete road to financial ruin, but for a club of our size, with one of the largest fanbases in the country, and the highest average attendance in the division so far this season, I still maintain that it's embarrassing and stinks of small club mentality that we decided to wait until the summer when Burke's contract runs down to try and sign him for nothing, instead of buying him now. It's not even a gamble, he's proven at this level, and is exactly the type of player we need.
Evening fellow masichists ... all is not lost. Burnley lifted themselves for arguably their biggest game of the season, we need to do the same EVERY game from the first minute!! Burnley will drop away, squad too small to cope with the toughness of this division. Our lads have to learn that playing for Leeds at ER makes them a massive scalp in the Championship ... teams come here not needing a motivational talk from the manager ... walking down the tunnel into the ER atmosphere is enough. We started far too slowly, and that was the difference. Dyche doesn't go in for skill, he wants battlers who will graft for 90 mins. They outfought our boys in the first half. QPR are not exactly setting the world alight, scraping results rather than winning by three or four ... a penalty got them the win at mighty Yeovil ... just shows how important clean sheets are!! Yes, we'd love a proven goalscorer, but they are not freely available. Becchio would be a very good addition if we could get him, be surprised if Norwich let him go. Bentley on a free would be worth a go, he is still a quality player ... McD and the Leeds challenge may just be what he needs to showcase his talent. Snap him up!! Millwall is going to be difficult ... like Burnley they will be confident and ready for a battle, we have to match them for work rate before earning the right to play. Hopefully Byram will be back, but if he's not ready so be it. Let's see if GFH dig deep this week and help McD add the much needed quality. MOT!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free
Eire, not fair or accurate to say he has not been backed. I think you mean "not backing him with funds as much as he and us would like?" Remember, it took a socundrel 8 years to bring us down to this level of financial difficulty. These chaps have been here less than a year. They told us it would not be fixed overnight. We need a little patience here, the new owners deserve it.
I think you left out - high rents on the training ground and stadium, debt and loss of season ticket revenue from east stand construction and wages of unwanted players from Warnock era.
The backing financially has been paltry. Four signings of the quality we were able to get are not going to turn the relegation threatened outfit we had last year into table toppers. Virtually every time we lose, I see the same comments that we've been beaten by a team that will be right up there at the end of the season. Let's see what calibre of striker the club have in mind for this week. I will reserve judgement till after the signing
Well we're probably above the average home attendance figure that the club budgeted for, plus two home games already shown on Sky - that's all extra money available for transfers/wages
Two home defeats already, watch the gates linger around 21k as we linger around mid table nothingness - Two players who 'might' have made a difference and had us in the top 6 and an excited bunch of fans and a 30k home gate week in and week out - Poor business I think... The board talk the talk and they tell us how they are listening and doing everything but the crux of it is we need more invested in the team if they really want bums on seats. They also told us we had two signings lined up, and what they really mean is it will NEVER be fixed until they find an investor. Am I being over pessimistic here??? I remember everyone saying give them time, judge the squad after the August transfer window not the January one - Well I am and the squad is not good enough, yes they allowed a £1m signing in Murphy but we all know the manager did not realise that was going to be his lot in the way of funding and they did also sell Becchio, something Bates would have been crucified for. Add up the total signings that Warnock made and his expenditure was far greater than what has been spent this transfer window. Pearce and Peltier alone cost as much as Smith, Hunt, Wootton and Murphy - LiE is right, we should be able to fund more signings with the fan base that we have. We have allowed lack of investment in the squad to become acceptable, we are all making excuses, we are all looking for excuses, we all want to believe that GFH are the saviours of our club and they will return us back to the Premiership - reality is they won't and they will drain plenty out to keep their investors happy... The more investors they bring in the more unstable we will become with the pressure building as those investors demand a return. Draw with Sheff W - Ahh but a local derby and anything can happen. Defeat to QPR - Ahh but they are promotion favourites. Defeat to Reading - Ahh but they are a decent home team hard to beat and fancied and there was too much injury time. Defeat to Burnly - Ahh but they will drop away, they were up for it seeing us as a scalp. The real reason for the defeats is we create little, our strikers are the worst combination we have had in probably 7 years and we are a mid table quality side. The BLAME BATES argument finished when GFH took over and told us we were debt free. If we are not good enough now it is down to either the managers signings and tactics or lack of backing from the board. I believe it is the latter of the two.
Changing manager alone has transformed this squad. We have been beaten by #1 and 2 in the current table. Of course I would prefer we had beaten them but I am not too depressed about it.
Ristac, how soon we forget the last year or so under that previous chairman! Yes, he allowed Warnock to sign a few. And now? What good has that done us? You can speculate that signing this one or that one would have made a huge difference. What if it didn't? Now you are out money you had no business spending and doing not as well as you thought you might. No wonder most football teams are on the brink of financial collapse.
McDermott said it was his recommendation not to sign Burke. How do you define top class and what has McDermott done to show that he is top class? He could have spent a million pounds on a striker instead of a midfielder we didn't need who's been poor. McDermott was a cheap and easy appointment so it's no surprise he hasn't had a lot of money. He spent most of his press conference saying how good he was at selling his best players and bringing in players on the cheap. If the fans want investment then that starts with a good manager. If they blindly back someone like McDermott then there's no onus on GFH to be ambitious. I said it when Grayson was here and I'm saying it now, ambition needs to come from the fans. If they continue to delude themselves into thinking a comedy manager will turn this club around then we'll just keep going round in circles.
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But are we? The point being made is that a club of out stature should be able to buy a few players, we should be able to afford more than the average other team can in this division, we have a larger fan base and one would imagine a larger income. Bates bled us dry he was a crook. Bates has gone and we are all too quick to continue laying the blame at his feet. He has gone yet we still keep saying we can't afford players because Bates has left us in a mess. GFH have reduced the wage bill, look at the squad and who they have got shot of, they have dumped the failing Radio station, they sold Becchio more fans are going to games yet we are still the little poor club that has no money. Why can't we afford the players who would make a difference - The answer is because GFH need to show us making a profit, they need to be able to give investors their money back with interest and the more investors they tout the more we shall have to give them.
We take 5,000 to Bolton, 3,500 midweek to Reading, and over 6,000 to Newcastle on Wednesday and it just gets taken for granted that we'll be there every game...and of course that's true, but it's about time the fans were rewarded by some form of ambition by the club. Leeds United have been a lion of a club led by donkeys for far too long.
Ristac did you not read, or did you choose to ignore, the following: "I think you left out - high rents on the training ground and stadium, debt and loss of season ticket revenue from east stand construction and wages of unwanted players from Warnock era." With respect to the above "GFH have reduced the wage bill, look at the squad and who they have got shot of, they have dumped the failing Radio station, they sold Becchio" 1) Where and by how much have they reduced the wage bill? 2) Who have they got shot of from the squad? 3) Dumping a failing radio station does not mean they did not have significant termination and other obligations to pay off. 4) Becchio was not sold, he was swopped with Morison plus cash.
