TORY PARTY using the tactics of 1930s Nazi Germany.

I agree with you, but why has this goverment targeted all, there was no need to be so outrageous to the genuine disabled was there, and that's wht I think they couldn't care less about anybody, sickens me to see people in wheelchairs etc, being targeted. And while we are at this subject, any of you remember how this goverment with their so-called agenda to get everyone back to work, sat by doing nothing when Remploy was closed down? It was on the welsh news, and they interviewed a lad who was almost in tears, he tried everything to stop the closure of the Swansea factory, and made some very good points on the TV interview, that Lads name is Niel, he's a Jack through and through, and can be found every match day in his wheelchair on the concourse of the east stand at the Liberty, he's also a mate at my local!...................

 

ive heard it all before aussie, me and terror have an understanding these days, we don't cross paths for the sake of an argument, water under the bridge .........

ps where do you find your time 2do training 4times a week, your on here all the time>>>are you fibbing for the hell of it again

 

when it comes 2the percentages of money taken from our treasury let me tell you, the little lazy twat living in a free council house accounts for nowt compared 2what the business and the rich keep out of our treasury>>>>>very little 2 no tax payed in,and off shore accounts don't help us as much as do the local council smack head families who exist rather than live>>>>>>think people and don't be jealous of them with little 2 nothing even though they've had it for nowt, these people are there and are being helped 2 stay there by our past and present governments...........we are being kept there by our governments tory lib and lab>>>>all falling into the capitalists agenda ie the slave trade and poverty hunger mixed in with wealth and splender and glutony

 

before I forget good luck for tonight

 

Well said aber, couldn't agree more mate!....................

 

Aye. It's far more shameful to use my own intelligence to work out who to vote for rather than just follow the herd in whatever geographical area my mother happened to squeeze me out. How dare I eh?

 

Dragon you are talking bollocks, it's ridiculous to compare the Nazi's to the evil Tories

 

Seven years of which coincide with the last Labour Government. You remember them? The party who drove down wages by importing millions of cheap labourers, sent hundreds of British soldiers to die over a lie, and put your great grandchildren in debt. Proper party of the working class they are.

 

The trouble with the current crop of 'modern day' politicians is that they are all of the same breed and ideology. The only difference is that they are wearing a different colour tie. Just look at the bellend Milliband, he is challenging the trade unions, the very unions which set up the Labour party movement to become a political voice for the working class and he is going against them rather than stand shoulder to shoulder with the representatives of the working class society. It is high time that the unions withdraw all of their support from this 'Tory wannabe party' and formed a new Labour Party that doesn't give a toss about the Murdoch's, and the top 1% of the country, but are prepared to fight tooth and nail for the working class society

 

that's a good one!....................

 

Watch the match lads

 

The problem is that there's more than just Upper, middle and working class now. Since the advent of the welfare state (a fine idea in principle, but allowed to become a monster) a fourth, rapidly expanding class has developed. The Scrounging class. Those who see nothing wrong in a life spent with their hands out demanding more. Pumping out feral kids by the bucketload, who then go on to repeat the cycle themselves.

Those who are genuine "working" class should be just as enthusiastic for the welfare cuts as the truest blue Tory. It's a sign of how damaged the moral compass of the labour movement has become when efforts to make those in receipt of taxpayer subsidised housing pay their fair share of the cost for any spare rooms they don't need are seen as something to be fought.

William Beveridge would be spinning in his grave if he could see what his noble idea has mutated into.

 

I did a geography paper on this during my A Levels years ago, and this assessment is spot on Lone

 

Well I wouldn't dispute that Lone, but the Tories are not handling this right, they are being far to arbitrary with the way they have gone about things!...

 

Do I detect you are rapidly retreating Dragon? Faster than the ****ing Italians after Anzio.

 

No, not at all, and stop coming back on here, then you might fulfil your prophecy, of this threads early demise!................

 

To many people take advantage of sickness benefit to sit on their fat backsides in their mobility cars. Paying to much benefit robs people of ambition and turns tax payers like myself cynical. To compare people who want to reform this system with Nazis is an ignorant exaggeration. Its a strange fact that the increase in obesity has occurred to the greatest extent in those that don't work, the biggest gluttons are those on benefit. Read today's Western Mail and you will see that more working people are in poverty than those on benefits, that could only happen in this country. Reform has to go ahead.

 

Working people in poverty? well that might have something to do with why some cannot be bothered, why should those that work, at least not receive enough to cover the basics, I think it's more to do with the people are now seeing that work really doesn't pay, and 0 hour contracts, tells you all you need to know about the Tory agenda, lets see any of these fat politicians live on JSA of £50 per week, they claim every benefit going under their expenses, fabricating second homes, even claiming manure for their gardens.


Until the inequality has been sorted, Britain will continue to slide down the economic ladder, we are the poor relations of Europe, and we couldn't manage a boozup in a brewery, staffing levels in the NHS is at an all time low, over half the nursing staff in this country, have seriously thought of leaving, to many of our household industrial names have now transfered their operations abroad, first it was manufacturing, then the service industry, and the same politicians that preach get out and work, are sitting on the boards of these companies that exported the jobs overseas for cheap labour. Make no mistake, the crap house keeping and rot started at the top a very long time ago, and now they are meeting themselves coming back, do I care about the cost to these politicians, not in the slightest, though the human cost is tragic, no way out now, and soon you'll see other agenda's, and if you think your pension pots are safe, well your deluded, and retirement age will be hiked again, there is no future for your grandchildren whatsoever, at least not in the UK.

 

So half the nursing staff have thought have leaving? Given the disgusting state of nursing in our hospitals it may be a pity they had'nt. Have you not read the reports of the nursing standards? Lack of basic hygiene and cruel treatment of our elderly.
Working class people are paying to much in tax to keep scroungers and benefit cheats in this country, like it or lump it. The worm is turning and all the lard arses can go get a job like the rest of us. Only by creating a culture where people.e use their initiative and energy will we be able to turn things around. Bleating and whinging about benefit will do nothing. I'm proud of my son who is paying his own way through college with a part time job. He went and delivered 40 to 50 CV's to business's and was successful. I'm confident he will bring his own children up to have the same attitude and that my grandchildren will be a success. Success for them won't be fiddling a benefit form.

 

Jobs! what jobs? there were over 1 million kids that left school this year that couldn't find any, most have gone back to UNI, if we can't sort jobs for the next generation then we have had it, who's going to support the ageing population, my sons in UNI and not one of his year have a job, because there are no jobs, and when my son qualifies as a civil engineer, he doesn't think he'll get work here in the UK, and definitly not in Wales.

You are deluding yourselves if you think there are jobs out there! well if you class cleaning and bar work as a job.....................