The media are certainly having fun mocking the new, weaker Jose. Questions about eggs during the week and a comment about egg on his face last night. Brilliant. The excuse for last night's laughable result seems to be that it was a young team. Average age 27.
Laugh at your peril, as we all know that he'll end up getting it right there, as he does wherever he goes........
I think there is something different about Maureen this time. He is all froth and show off but in actual fact his teams have not been impressive so far. He is doing weird things such as leaving off Mata (their best player), and packing the midfield with the same type of players, recruiting a washed up striker who is clearly past his sell by date...the list goes on and on.. The other managers have started working him out. And that element of surprise which he had in his first tenure is gone. It would not surprise me if the Chavs end up with nothing and that they start dropping down the league. The bookies who have the thick Chavs as favourites will soon realise that he has been hyped up and that Moyes is not as raw as they think he is....
Don't completely disagree but Moyes has taken over the champions and added one good player; who he know well. That level of stability is difficult to mess up. Moyes may well win the league this year, his real test will be winning it consistently and more so when the team is of his own making - not fergies. We look in a right mess at the moment. Very good squad but a team that can't play together yet and probably still a striker short. I don't think we'll win the league and said the same a month ago.
So if we win the league this season it will be because of the quality of the squad whereas last season a poor squad won it because Fergie was the manager. Right.
No one would seriously say you had a poor squad. Fergie meant you ran away with it. With Moyes you just might edge it. Put me in charge and i'd get a fair few wins against anyone outside the top 6 with that squad.
Ask Ray Hartford or Graeme Souness about that one. Heck, Ancelotti managed to mess up his own double winning champions in pretty spectacular style just a few years ago. I've said it before and I'll say it again - taking over an already successful side, or even continuing to improve it, is a lot harder than taking over a side that's not at its peak. SAF and Paisley are the only managers since WWII who can honestly say they have managed to maintain or improve on a title winning side in England. If Moyes can manage the same then he'll have done outstandingly well.
yeah that is why he got the sack first time with chelsea .. and yeahh that was why he lost the plot with Real so it is not 100% sure he will get it right this time either, more when the style Abra want him to play with don't fit Jose style
Incredible. Moyes cannot win here. If he does well and win something, it is Fergie's team. If he doesn't then he is Useless. But i can people already changing their opinion of moyes
He can win...when he takes a team of his own making to titles. Just like everyone who dismissed Chelsea managers (post Jose) achievements; such as Avram getting to the C.L final.
So, when Mourinho rocked up at Chelsea first time around he completely changed every single player in the side, didn't use any of Ranieri's? Thanks for clearing that up.
It is amazing that it has f**king taken all this time for people to realise this. We have had pundits after pundits (who know f**k all about the game) dismissing United. Maureen and $$ty are the firm favourites they say and United will be lucky to get third or fourth. Whilst I am not saying it never could happen, it was rather disrespectful of Moyes for them not to recognise that he has taken over the champions. Our defence and attack are not bad. And if we can stop people scoring and we can score ourselves at the other end, we won't do too badly, will we? As for Maureen, the players when he was first around were much better and stronger physically and seem to play as a team. Now it seems that their strikeforce is non existent, they have shipped out Sturridge to the scousers (I mean how stupid is that) loaned out Lukaku and Moses who will do well at their new clubs. He has lost the plot and he will dread Roman's knocking on his door soon...
He changed a fair few and took some of the existing players to a new level. Frank and J Cole for starters. He also brough a certain young Arjen Robben into the side and built the attack around a relatively unknown guy called Drogba. Yeah he did nothing and won it all with Ranieri's team .
No...it was disrespectful of the players that won the title, not the new man whose won **** all. Sturridge has done well but no different to you letting fringe players go who've gone on to do well like Pique and Rossi. Happens all the time. Moses also fringe and was last year to. Lukaku arguably but he's young and has room to grow.
What he did with Cole and Lampard is irrelevant, they were already there and in the team which seems to be your criteria. Otherwise Moyes will get all the credit for bringing on the players already in the squad and making a few changes, right? However you seem to be suggesting that Moyes will have done nothing if he wins with Fergie's team. And then in the next breath on another thread will be saying that we only won the league last year because of the Fergie factor and that our squad is average. This has been said on countless times by posters on this website and 'pundit's'. Therefore, if Moyes is successful with this squad, and it's still an if, then HE deserves the credit. Correct?
Jose took players who had won nothing and turned them into winners. If Moyes wins the title, it'll be largely because he has inherited a title winning side. Like it or lump it, that's pretty much fact. Does he deserve credit, yes of course but not to the extent of someone actually dramatically improving a team / their fortunes. May seem harsh on Moyes but I'd say the same of Pep at Bayern or the guy who took over Barca.
