Is that a green with envy eyed monster speaking here....would you not maximise your earning power if you could..
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmcase/Results/1/UK00002657917?legacySearch=False Bale's trademarks: please log in to view this image and please log in to view this image Is he or is he not referring to his trademarked brand with his celebration? Bentner was banned for a game in Euro 2012 and fined £80,000 for exposing a trademarked brand. Fortunately the chimp has no worries of finding himself in a Euro finals game, but should he be exempt from football regulations on the loophole that hands are not "kit or equipment"?
He's not referring to his brand. It's the other way around, the brand logo refers to the celebration that he's famous for using. He also wears number 11 which is a significant part of his new brand, do you think he's promoting his brand everytime he wears number 11 on the back of his shirt? Of course not, it existed way before the brand and inspired it, just as the celebration did. Even if you don't agree that he's not promoting his brand, the reason Bendtner got fined is totally different. Companies pay a lot of money to UEFA/FIFA to be the an official sponsor of the Euros/World Cup and Bendtner helped a company circumvent that and get their own product to appear at the Euros without permission. The rights are worth so much because you become the official sponsor for whatever product you're flogging. They only have one betting sponsor, one fastfood sponsor, one beer sponsor, etc. That means some other betting company had paid multiple millions to be the only betting company associated with the Euros so Bendtner cost UEFA money and credibility. Had his underwear had a Tommy Hilfiger logo or Adidas logo on it then there would be no problem with UEFA as UEFA did not sell the privilege to become"official underwear partner to Euro 2012". Real Madrid are the only ones that could have a problem with him doing his celebration but as they benefit from his image rights and profile they would have no need to. Again this is assuming a lot of stuff as true when it's not. For starters Bale's celebration isn't plugging his brand(as explained at the start), secondly I don't think he's selling anything with the Eleven of Hearts on so he's getting no financial gain from plugging his brand(even if he was) and most crucially players are actually free to plug nearly any products they want, it's pretty much just beer, betting and sports gear* where they have limitations from the club. To expand on that final point, when a player is getting interviewed wearing a pair of Beats headphones around their neck, or a New Era hat, these aren't things they've paid for, they get them free so that they wear them and promote the brand(they'll often get some money for this too). That's not doing anything different than you're accusing Bale of. *the notable exception is footwear as they're free to organise their own sponsor for that, which they get all the money for. Do you think Gerrard is despicable for promoting a brand of football boots and in turn profiting from it?
If I had the option of making £50mil a year and be liked, admired and seen as a role model by all fans or trademark a celebration that has been used by many people before me, make £60million and correctly be known as a ****ing prick then I know which one I would chose. When I'm making £50mil a year I really wouldn't give a **** about making more.
If Gerrard trademarked his own brand of shoes then celebrated every single goal with the same shoe cleaning celebration to maximise publicity then yes he too would be a massive twat. Imagine if after the goal in Istanbul or against Olympiakos he was looking for the cameras to shoot his brand rather than pumping up the team. Bale can never be a captain so long as goals are advertising opportunities. His celebration is not about his family, his team mates, his club, his fans, or the actual impact of the goal - it's only about his image. Twat.
Okay so we've been over most of this stuff. He's not promoting anything, for a start as he's not selling any clothing right now and doesn't even have a website for the brand from what I can see. It's also not like he'd be doing the celebration in order to promote his brand because he's done his celebration everytime he's scored for years, if he does it now it's no different to all the other times. Going back to the football boots point, Gerrard wears boots that have a big logo on them giving the brand a huge exposure which he then uses to get a bigger sponsorship deal for himself. How dare he! On to the new stuff you brought up. His celebration started is a tribute to his girlfriend, the only times he hasn't done it(that I can remember) was when he scored against Southampton and when he had just become a father and he made and A with his hands for his new daughter, Alba. Not sure why you think it's about image and not his family as he's been doing the heart celebration for the same girl throughout and also used another celebration for his daughter. Sorry but you're seeing what you want, I suspect you just want to see the worst in Bale though as you don't like him.
I think there are probably more deserving targets for our disapproval in the world. Personally I don't care about his celebration and his self-promotion. He's a good footballer, but nowhere near the superstar he's cracked up to be so he can make the most of his "brand" while he's able as far as I'm concerned. He's not playing in our league any more so it has little relevance to me at the moment. I'm more interested in us getting back in the CL so we can play against him again.
I couldn't give a **** Bale is hardly the epitome of evil. If I was a Madrid fan I'd be more than happy to see him do the celebration every week (as long as he's doing it when he scores). If Sturridge wants to do his ****y dance every single game then he can go sell t shirts with it on too for all I care. For all we're willing to forgive Suarez for, I reckon it would be rank hypocrisy to criticise Bale for something so trivial.
Bonus twatery - bookings for simulation in the PL since 2009-10: Gareth Bale 6 Fernando Torres 3 Ashley Young 2 Emmanuel Eboué 2 Luis Suárez 2 Daniel Sturridge 2 Mario Balotelli 2 Javier Hernandez 2 Undisputed.
In fairness, at least 2 of those bookings for Bale I think were actually fouls. One of them should have been a penalty, and one a freekick. I don't remember the exact games. This thread is hilarious, considering Liverpool employ the biggest footballing twat there is on this planet.
And one of Torres' was actually a foul by Man Utd, so even correcting for wrong decisions he has twice as many bookings as the next player
You can keep changing your argument all you want but all it shows is that you have a problem with the guy for other reasons. First you say that he's trademarked his celebration - I show he hasn't. Then you say he's promoting his brand like Bendtner got fined for - I show he isn't. Then you say his celebration has nothing to do with his family - I show it is. Now you switch tact completely from the celebration that caused you to make the thread to diving statistics For the record 4 of those bookings were given to when he was fouled. Anyway, it doesn't matter, you'll believe what you want and hate him all the same.
You haven't showed anything. I know what he has trademarked; I posted his actual IPO submissions The diving stats are bonus twatery, added due to the fact that they are timely since they were posted to the BBC football live updates less than an hour ago I don't hate him, I just think he's a massive twat. Thanks for your completely unbiased opinions anyway though.
But how many times have you seen somebody dive and not get booked but the ref wave play on anyway, or a penalty awarded for the dive? This particular stat is completely misleading. These sort of dives I'm talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVUk2LdieQw Plus more! http://footballburp.com/magazine/top-10-luis-suarez-dives/ Just because he didn't get booked for all of those is the only reason he's not top of your table.
If you knew what he hadn't trademarked his celebration then why did you put this in your OP... Or this later in the thread... ? Once I'd pointed out that he trademarked a logo and not a celebration you then went on to the idea that he's advertising citing Bendtner's fine and the fact that Bale's celebration makes up part of his logo. I then explained to you how Bendtner's fine was for reasons that couldn't be applied to Bale and that all players directly profit from advertising everytime they put their boots on. I assume you're never going to agree with me that Bale is not doing his celebration to promote his brand that doesn't have any products to buy but I explained that to you too. After that you changed your argument to the celebration having nothing to do with his family, I explained how this was wrong. Then you ended up bringing up a load of diving statistics when you were struggling to show that Bale has done anything remotely wrong by celebrating his goal for Real the way he has always done. It's nothing to do with bias on my part, my opinion hasn't come into it at any point. It's a fact that he hasn't trademarked his celebration, it's a fact that his celebration was for his girlfriend and he also used a celebration to dedicate a goal to his daughter, it's a fact that he's done the same celebration for years and it's a fact that Bale couldn't be fined like Bendtner because he hasn't broken the same rules(or any rules for that matter). I do think he's a decent bloke though so you can think that's biased if you want but there was nothing biased about the arguments I've made on here.
