And the vast majority of City fans, Reg, don't care enough about the name change to protest about it.
So you CANNOT name anyone that's banned for having an opposing view. Thought not. Even posting it out of context as you've done, that reply you've posted also points out the gaping hole in your argument. It's a reply to some bollocks you were pming me and doesn't support your claim.
I have never pm'd you ever. You chose to abuse your position as a mod, how you live your life is up to you. Have a good day.
If you're looking for an argument, you need to start with something that hasn't been shown to be bollocks. Post something to back your claim.
I suggest you spend your time on something more constructive, something like the name change protest maybe? Good luck with that.
I'll take that as an admission that you were lying when you mad that ridiculous claim about people being banned then.
Obadiah on CI is looking for suggestions. I'll copy any over if people don't want to post there directly. http://www.hullcityindependent.net/?page=forum&forum_id=4&thread_id=16444 [Quote = Obadiah CI] These are my thoughts for discussion about where we go from here. I'm not a member of any other board and have no objection to anyone copy and pasting to them to the other boards. Positives from our two demonstrations We have a small core of supporters who want to do something to save the name of the club. We need to keep these people together and stop them becoming disillusioned. We have a corner of West Park which we can make our own for the season. If people want to know what's happening they can come and see us at every home game. It is close to the bus stops and thousands of supporters walk past it on their way into the ground. Our task is to get them to stop, talk to us and join the campaign. We also need to give them something to do which they feel happy doing. Not everyone wants to march but that doesn't mean they cannot participate. We now know the task that faces us and the obstacles we need to overcome. Its not going to be easy and will require a bit of hard work. The question is how important is our name to us. We need to put our disappointment away and think of ways we can get to our fellow supporters. Not all of them think we are wrong and many of them would be prepared to help. Hull City v West Ham United Our next home game is against West Ham. Football Focus is live at the KC. I don't think we should try and disrupt it but we should try and get them interested in our campaign. What I suggest is to build on our positives. We should have a platform in the corner of West Park gates from 2:00pm to 2:45pm where supporters opposed to the name change speak for 2 or 3 minutes about what Hull City means to them and why they oppose the change of name. We could get a megaphone so we can be heard. Following the lead of Mr Allam we should find some college film students to record the speeches and we could put the best speeches on Youtube on a save our campaign channel. The channel could be used for all our campaign film. An idea inspired by Karlsberg and the young lads yesterday chanting on the march. We should aim for around 100 fans to gather at the gates to hear the speeches. We should have identified enough speakers to fill the 45 minutes beforehand if nobody else volunteers. The first 10 minutes shouldn't be us looking at our shoes waiting for the first volunteer. We would need an MC to introduce why we're there and to call people up to speak. If we could pull that off we'd be guaranteed to draw other supporters into the crowd, at least for a few minutes. We'd also get a clip or two on Look North and Calendar, as well as maybe an interview or two on Humberside. Football Focus would have finished with City and may stick around to see what we can pull off. We should aim to cover that area in the name change banner and as many other flags as possible. That will mean getting there before 2:00pm and having everything ready for a prompt 2:00pm start. There is nothing more dispiriting as being on time and having to wait until everybody else gets there. We should have a plan B if we get some really awful weather. Finally at 2:45pm we could, if we wanted, walk together to the ground behind our flags. Of course it wouldn't be a march. We could even sing some City songs, such as City till I die rather than Don't change our name. Postcards We have until April to persuade the Premier League to oppose the name change. We could produce a postcard in black and amber with the Premier League's address on and ask people to write their own comments on and send it to the Premier League. If we look at raising money for pre-paid postage we could have a stall and post box at every home game for people to sign the postcard, pop it in our post box and we arrange delivery to the Post Office. Campaign Group We should have a meeting of all those opposed to the name change to form a campaign group, with a name. We need people who are prepared to act as treasurer, raise money, deal with the press, organise Youtube, write leaflets, organise social media, and a thousand and other tasks that people take for granted when they see a campaign. We already have people doing this we need to bring everybody together. A physical meeting could also add ideas to our campaigning activity and point out those ideas of mine that are too farfetched. Conclusion After yesterday its time to give those opposing the name change a lift. Lets get organised and show those doubters and cynics that we can make a splash when we really want to. The questions are, do we want to and are we prepared to do what is required? [/quote]
I have to be honest and admit I haven't read all 212 posts on this thread. So no, I haven't ignored it. Perhaps you could point me towards it? I can't really be bothered trawling through everyone's posts. Yours, Augustus Gloop xx
[/QUOTE] Thanks for posting this.... Namechange? Get to fvck... I've highlighted the key parts in red for you.
Give out "NO TO THE NAME CHANGE" stickers like the ones I've seen dotted around town and get everyone who has one to stick it on their seat during the game.
This sums up a lot of problems with our support from Obi's post "These are my thoughts for discussion about where we go from here. I'm not a member of any other board and have no objection to anyone copy and pasting to them to the other boards." You feel so strongly but wont take 2 minutes to join and put your points over as its "the other lot". Maybe not what he intended but how it comes across to me. The fans are so divided and apathetic, lots of big key board talk-no action.
Not much will come from this board, there are too many ignoring folk because they can't handle being taken on in their arrogant stands and too many PMs that hide the real nature of some of the self-elected leaders. The demo on Saturday was a PR disaster and has set any reasonable argument back a great deal. If you want to pick a fight, then be careful about how you pick your time and place. If this argument cannot be won from within the KC Stadium, then it won't be won and, frankly, isn't worth winning. As I said on a previous post, the campaign against the name-change must be conducted within the stadium and it must be something that is easy to do and easily recognised by the media; it seems to me that folk just want to make a meal of it, which will give AA all of the ground he needs to push on.
I tell you what, those who want to protest need to be very careful. At the moment there are, in my opinion, a significant majority who would rather keep the club name the same, but also think a) that if AA wants to change the name he has the right to and b) the the name change is not that bad. If the anti name change protesters start organising protests that clearly affect the performance of the team on the pitch (in response to the comments by Fez above), they should expect that silent majority to stop being silent, and it won't be in favour of the protesters. Just saying, like! Sorry, Kempton, I think that needed saying, so now it has I'll stop again!
And they'd be the same apathetic passive majority who sit gormlessly accepting this name change ****?
