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  1. nomoregeordies

    nomoregeordies Well-Known Member

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    If they the smallest things then what makes them up. Even if there are sub atomic particles would there not have to be sub sub sub sub ad infinitum atomic particles. Please help I have been awake all night. Even dirty royalist geordie bastards if you can help.
     
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  2. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    They're not the 'smallest things' The Large Hadron Collider in Switzerland dispelled the myth over a year ago mate. Want to answer your questions? Read up on that and you'll have all your answers. <ok>
     
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  3. its been fun thanks :)

    its been fun thanks :) ♬♬Badum-tish! ♬♬
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    our universe is quite likely a subatomic particle ... and knowing that helps me sleep better at night
    :emoticon-0113-sleep
     
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  4. Brian Storm

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    Well the Hadron Collider has given us vital clues to beginning of the Universe. We're closer to answering the 'Ultimate question' than we ever have been.

    I think it's very interesting. I may be alone on that like.
     
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  5. its been fun thanks :)

    its been fun thanks :) ♬♬Badum-tish! ♬♬
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    Likewise read and watch loads its all very fascinating mate
     
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  6. Brian Storm

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    It is mate. It's Science beyond my wildest dreams. They've created a microscopic black hole for christ sake. It's absolutely staggering, mind blowing work imo. Sterling work.
     
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    Five years ago, at breakfast time, the world waited anxiously for news from CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research. The first nervy bunch of protons were due to be fired around the European lab’s latest and biggest particle accelerator, the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), as it kicked into action.

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    Universe’s secrets are revealed in a dark corner in Switzerland. timtom.ch

    Some “mercifully deluded people” – as Jeremy Paxman put it – feared the LHC would do no end of mischief. There was talk of planet-swallowing black holes, the transformation of the Earth into a new state of “strange” matter, and even the prospect of the obliteration of the entire universe. But for those of more sensible dispositions, the LHC’s first beam was an occasion for great excitement.

    As the protons sped all the way round the 27km tunnel under the countryside between Lake Geneva and the Jura Mountains, thousands of physicists and engineers celebrated decades of hard work, incredible ingenuity and sheer ambition. Together they had created the largest-ever scientific experiment.

    After the LHC was switched on, project leader Lyn Evans said, “We can now look forward to a new era of understanding about the origins and evolution of the universe.”

    Operating a massive particle accelerator requires much more than flicking a switch – thousands of individual elements have to all come together, synchronised in time to less than a billionth of a second.

    University College London’s physicist Jon Butterworth recalls a “particularly bizarre memory” from that day. Relaxing in a Westminster pub after an exhausting LHC event in London, Butterworth found he could follow live updates from his own ATLAS experiment on the pub’s TV.

    Particle physics continued to make news. The following fortnight’s joy turned to dismay as an accident involving six tonnes of liquid helium erupting violently in the tunnel – euphemistically referred to as “the incident” – damaged around half a mile of the collider, closing the LHC for a year.

    Since then, besides the brief setback that was “baguette-gate”, a bizarre episode when the collider was sabotaged by a baguette-wielding bird, the LHC has been producing great work. Hundreds of scientific papers have been published by the CERN experiments, on topics as diverse as searches for dark matter candidates, the production of the primordial state of matter (known as quark-gluon plasma) and precision measurements of matter-antimatter asymmetries.

    However, it was on July 4 last year, that the LHC snared its first major catch with the discovery of the Higgs boson – as one of the most significant scientific finds of the century. The Higgs boson was one of the longest-sought prizes in science – it was almost fifty years ago in 1964 that three groups of theorists laid the ground-work for what would become the final piece of the theory known as the Standard Model of Particle Physics. They proposed an energy field, filling the entire Universe that gives mass to fundamental particles.

    This “Higgs mechanism” neatly explained why the weak nuclear force was so weak and why light is able to travel over infinite reaches of space. It also laid the groundwork for the unification of the weak and electromagnetic forces into a single “electroweak” force, in a coup similar to James Clerk-Maxwell’s unification of electricity and magnetism in the 19th century.

    However, like air, the Higgs field itself is invisible; the only way to know if it is there is to create a disturbance in it, like a breeze or a sound. It was Peter Higgs who first suggested that if the field existed, it would be possible to create such a disturbance, which would show up as a new particle. Hence, the boson was named after him, much to the irritation of some of the other five theorists responsible for the theory.


    The LHC’s discovery of the Higgs closed a chapter in the development of fundamental physics, placing the keystone into the great arch of the Standard Model. The LHC is currently being upgraded so that in 2015 it will reopen at almost double its previous energy. What every scientist is now aching for is a sign of something new, physics beyond the Standard Model, and most probably beyond our wildest aspirations.
     
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  8. Sidthemackem

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    Very clever man, Peter Higgs.

    Unlike NMG who is a thick ****.
     
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    Well now, on my pet subject.. the term particle is a misnomer..a particle suggest that its a bit of solid boring dense material (a bit like a toon supporter). In fact everything is made up of waves (like my hair...when I had hair) and forces (like my wife on a rampage) and spin (like every politician I've ever heard.) So the whole universe is just hair and temper and bullsh**e.
    There you have it,years and years of study, beer, match day pies and supporting Sunderland has led me to this knowledge.
     
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    <laugh> Ha ha!
     
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    nomoregeordies Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the replies lads. It really is fascinating. Sid there was no need for your comment imo. However, you are entitled to your point of view. So love and peace to you Sid.
     
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  12. Sidthemackem

    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United
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    Up yours. There was every need. You might otherwise have thought I find you remotely interesting.

    Still, I am a reasonable man, so the fact that I can't be arsed to be civil to you makes you unique amongst Not606ers.
     
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    nomoregeordies Well-Known Member

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    OOOH Sid you are awful but I like you. Do you fancy coming out I have some tickets to see Boy George in concert next month.
     
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  14. Sidthemackem

    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United
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    No
     
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    nomoregeordies Well-Known Member

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    Jimmy Somerville is on as well.
     
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    Do they come from Hendon?
     
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    I'm a forensic expert. My main job is identifying bodies by dental record.

    My worst nightmare is a fire in the Jeremy Kyle studio
     
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