Hibernian FC announce a profit for the year. But that can't be right. Scottish football was doomed. Armageddon was inevitable. We need SEVCO to survive. Now let me see. When the now defunct, dead as a dodo, ex football club, digging up the daisies rfc were on a spend spend spending spree financed ultimately by the uk tax payer, Scottish clubs were declaring losses year in year out. Hunf.......sorry Dunfermline and hearts etc etc as examples were trying to compete, totally unaware that the road to success is simply not to pay that nasty mob at HMRC. Low and behold............rfc are liquidated...........and now under the leadership of Celtic and PL, now teaching the SFA how to run an honest transparent and financially sound ship, Scottish clubs are back in profit. Arise Sir Peter Lawell of Paradise. As to poor old Jack.........think again ..........btw. Best of luck with the police investigation into the treatment of HMRC employees. Admiral Yamamoto..after PH. I am afraid we may have awakened a sleeping giant. SIR CRAIG has is day in court shortly................. Green and White did it in the dining room with a mallet.
http://www.not606.com/showthread.php/228695-Death-Takes-Another-Kick-In-The-Baws! 3 hours too late Albie.
Spiers on the money again, great article. http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport...mind-your-language-with-rangers-fc.1378814712 Scottish football remains poisoned by the continuing fall-out over the liquidation of Rangers last year. Bitterness and venom are spouting forth in ways the game has scarcely known north of the border. A section of Rangers supporters feel deeply aggrieved, and much of it is justified. Their club was betrayed and ruined by a rogues' gallery of dodgy geezers, and terrible damage was done. The problem is, many of these same supporters originally gave their backing to some of these characters. I was outside Ibrox on May 7 2011 when Craig Whyte rode into town. If some Rangers fans that day had waved palm branches along Edmiston Drive they couldn't have looked more exuberant in their welcome. Egged on by the Daily Record, which repeatedly fawned to Whyte and fatuously hailed him "a billionaire", a seed was being sown which would have catastrophic consequences. When liquidation finally came to Rangers, an eruption of bitterness and casting around for blame broke out, and it continues to this day. Just ask Jim Spence, a BBC Scotland journalist, who has recently copped much flak. Spence's "crime" was an odd one. On Radio Scotland last week he blithely spoke words on air which a wide range of Scottish football observers, businessmen, insolvency people and more would have taken for granted. Spence referred to the liquidated Rangers Football Club plc as "the club that died". Amid this furnace of ill-feeling, for many Rangers supporters this is a detested and deeply hurtful phrase. And it fairly roused them to action. Over 400 Rangers fans complained to BBC Scotland, who duly issued an apology for any offence that may have been taken. Rangers and their director of communication, James Traynor, leapt into action by issuing their own statement, appearing to warn that the club's lawyers might get involved over a journalist such as Spence daring to use such words as "a dead club". Traynor should certainly know all about that. Last year, still working as a Daily Record columnist, this is what he himself wrote: "Rangers as we know them died. Rangers FC are dead." If, as Jim and Rangers are threatening, their lawyers go to war over Spence, it would surely count as the most farcical piece of litigation ever seen in Scottish football. For the sake of Rangers' own head of communication, one must hope the legal pursuit is not retrospective. The context of Spence and the BBC will have to be worked out separately. In recent months, the BBC Trust set out guidelines for referring to "old" and "new" Rangers, and held that the BBC in Scotland had failed to be precise in this. But a wider point is more intriguing: are journalists, reporters and commentators really to be hounded for referring to the liquidated Rangers as "the old Rangers"? There has been something sinister about the way Jim Spence has been treated, given that many would argue he merely stated the bleedin' obvious. Perhaps Spence and Traynor, in their separate ways, were trying to be controversial or provocative in their remarks. In which case, controversy can have its place, just as it must also be counter-challenged, such as here. Where the exegetical fog exists is when, in debating the sins of the old Rangers regime, people seek to distinguish between the club then and now. It inevitably needs a phrase such as "old" or "oldco" or "original" Rangers or some such delineation. The very language, though, makes some Rangers fans livid. It is proving a painful subject. Some have argued that it shouldn't matter; that even for ardent Rangers supporters, the club is here, it plays at Ibrox, it has the same name, the same strip, the same lustre. Why, it has been asked, make such a song and dance? But I've discovered this won't wash. For some Rangers fans it is an emotional agony to think of their precious club being dissolved last year - the notion is simply not for consideration. The famed phrase "it was the company, not the club, which went bust" was born roundabout the spring of 2012, when liquidation became a certainty, and has been clung to ever since by fans. And hell mend anyone - and certainly any pesky hack - who dares to differ. This has been a very painful experience for Rangers. And the venom and anger are showing no signs of abating.
Good piece Eric. Insolvency law 1986 is quite clear. RFCIL incorporated in 1897. The club became a company and under the law of the land indistinguishable. They were one and the same. They failed to deincorporate and subsequently when liquidated, as the gates of Ibrokes say and as CH and the law make quite clear rfc were liquidated. LNS made it clear that on 14th June 2012 rfc ceased to exist. He was not stupid enough to deny this, however, he came up with some nebulous concept that the ethereal concept of the club continued, since the fans identified with the new entity as the old. This is why I made the kid and the goldfish analogy. Fans are not the club, otherwise Third Lanark would still exist and would never have been liquidated, but they were liquidated and aNEW CLUB formed. They are not the same and neither are SEVCO. Whether the fans of a liquidated club go through hell and back is not the issue.......the club was incorporated asa company and so died. End of. All else is just convenient financially and an insult to the now defunct rfc fan who has an IQ greater than their shoe size.
Seems the BBC has backed Jim Spence after discussions with the NUJ. Remember them. Many of their members received threats about a year ago when discussing the rfc, now defunct, issue. Glad to see the national broadcasting organisation grow a pair and face up to the Nazi like book burners who complained about anyone having an opinion, which was at variance with theirs.
Ciaran............if someone didn't give a fiddlers, firstly they wouldn't read the thread and secondly, certainly wouldn't post on it. Posting means that one does give a fiddlers, no matter what one claims. As to the purpose of the thread, well its all about freedom of the press and right to hold and express an opinion without fear of the implied threat of violence or loss of employment. We have to fight against these reptiles whenever we confront them, otherwise those who fought and died in WWII did so entirely in vain. Sevconians after its a knockout Remembrance Day will fail to see the irony in this.
I mean why do you care so much about Rangers and their status? They play in blue at Ibrox FFs, who is it? Football is a sport for the masses and they have 40k plus supporting them, ****s like you. They didn't cook the books, dodgy bastard businessmen did.
Everyone knew during the administration of Rangers that liquidation would be the end of the club....but don't worry...there will be a saviour The Saviour was also fully aware that liquidation would be the end of the club...but don't worry, well get a CVA.... LIQUIDATION ARRIVES Everyone knew it was the end of the club...every paper reported it....the most important people at the club said it... BUT WAIT All of these important people that worked at Rangers and the fans with nothing to do on a matchday began to feel SHAME SHAME that not only did they ignore warnings of their clubs inevitable doom, but that they STOOD BACK AND DID ALMOST NOTHING ABOUT IT. A sponsored walk round Ibrox for a support, who regularly take lengthy walks each summer for fun, was the grand attempt to close the door after the horse had bolted... And as it finally dawned on them what had happened...the laughing stock they had become...realising the SHAME they had brought upon themselves...an idea emerged... You cannot FEEL SHAME if you HAVE NO SHAME They pretended LIQUIDATION never happened...it was only the HOLDING COMPANY... They bought the history It was everyone's fault but theirs They saved the club That last ones a doozy...They did nothing to save the club...everyone knows this. They can't come to terms with it What a shame Dignity does not consist in possessing honours, but in deserving them
Spence said something about something that doesn't exist? That's very poor reporting if you ask me. The guy is a disgrace to the profession and should be sacked immediately.
What have the Peaky Blinders got to do with this thread - would they not have been either Aston Villa or Birmingham City supporters?
