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9/11 What are your thoughts ?

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  1. Sucky

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    so your suggestion is that the nose of the plane made the whole and the rest, including the wings disintigrated into dust before they hit the building? I must have read that wrong?
     
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  3. Norway-jack

    Norway-jack Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't come down at an angle though does it !

    Just because the mast kicks off a few degrees doesn't mean the building does, there may well have been plenty of things attached to the mast that made it sway one way,there may have been not . Point is that the official truth is just as fudged as the conspiracy and nobody has come up with a satisfying answer..not even you.

    You believe the tower comes down at an angle then change that so that the top bit comes down at an angle, and that's the whole point. All evidence is not 100% on this one I'm afraid to say.

    Hence such a conspiracy theory <cheers>
     
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  4. swanselona

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    Well if your not going to watch the video, then is there any point carrying on with you, the video clearly shows the top few floors coming down " AT AN ANGLE ".

    If you HAD watched it, you wouldn't be posting such rubbish stuff as "Just because the mast kicks off a few degrees doesn't mean the building does"

    So I will try again

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHHghW4Pg5k

    Watch from 3:35 -> 3.50

    Then come back and tell me the top did not fall at an angle.

    That top IS NOT THE MAST

    That top is the top floors of the structure. EVERYTHING ABOVE THE FLOORS THE PLANE IMPACTED

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    That is a lot of weight. The rewason that fell at an angle is a weakness in the structure below, just for reference, this is the floor that were impacted. Weakened by the fire, and 1 corner was weaker than the others, hence the top section coming down AT AN ANGLE.

    Everything your trying to deny is aparant in a video, but you will only realise when you actually go and watch that video.
     
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  5. swanseaandproud

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    the building was designed in the event of a plane crashing into it that if it came down it would come down straight to minimize any extra damage to the other buildings around it.....there is no conspiracy at all, It was a terrorist attack pure and simple....these loonies are anti government who also says they never landed on the moon or elvis is alive or the holocaust is a myth.....what rubbish...
     
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    Dai I have to agree with you, there is nothing there to say its a conspiracy, the video's prove there was a weakness in the floors of the affected impact area, images proving the bowing of the floors due to the weakened steel, resulting in the area above coming down and the sheer weight of that top section subsequently caused the rest of the building to collapse straight down (gravity)

    As for the post above claiming 10 tonnes of thermite, interesting considering the same people who say the results were in the steel claimed 80% of the steel was recycled before testing, so how could they come to the conclusion of 10 tonne's of thermite when the steel had already gone?
     
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  7. Norway-jack

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    Yes ive looked at the video and it comes down straight then kicks off to the side <ok>

    So in fact it doesn't prove anything other than what we talked about origionally. And how about the other towers ?

    like this one
    [video=youtube;4nnQ8iE5rKQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nnQ8iE5rKQ[/video]


    and this one wt 7

    [video=youtube;Zv7BImVvEyk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv7BImVvEyk[/video]

    Now ive answered your questions but you've consistently avoided answering mine on WT7 , and indeed the other tower. If your theory is correct then the other two towers will behave in a similar way to the first, truth is they do behave the same way as the tower you refer to starts off on a verticle drop then kicks off to the side . :)
     
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    at least we can agree it made a hell of a mess and took a lot of cleaning up..
     
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    And as ive maintained all along. There is nothing to say one thing or another on this whole 9/11 thing . I understand the points you make but if there was any water in them then we would have seen the same with wt7 and the second tower ,we didn't .
     
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  10. The Lone Rangel

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    What's more likely?

    A large, well funded, well trained and well motivated team of terrorists managed to hijack four fairly lightly guarded airliners (flying internally in the States was like catching a bus pre-9/11) and crash them into some equally unguarded landmarks in a suicide attack, one attempt of which failed?

    Or,

    A government conspiracy that would have required weeks, maybe months of preparation including the installation and concealment of enough specialist explosives to level a number of buildings without anyone noticing, not to mention hundreds of people all sworn to (and maintaining) absolute secrecy whilst leaving not a scrap of incontrovertible evidence behind?

    I know the kind of people who believe that 9/11 was an inside job are generally too thick/crazy to follow simple logic, but we have to try.
     
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    So you are saying you are not sure norway..<laugh>
     
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    Here you are KJ, just for you <ok>

    [video=youtube;LPKq2K2dh6k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPKq2K2dh6k[/video]
     
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    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    Fair play lads, cracking debate going on here, really interesting reading peoples thoughts on this.
     
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    Michael Fish once reported that there wouldn't be a hurricane. One American newspaper once reported that the wrong candidate had won a Presidential election. People make mistakes. Mistakes that get pounced upon and paraded as the truth by tinfoil hat wearing loons.
     
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    Some argue that if you combine both possibilities you get the correct answer Rangel.
     
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  17. Viking_Jock

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    Yes, it was exactly what it looked like, a terrorist attack. Airplanes are mostly aluminium, and if it burns and reaches 700 degrees it explodes in contact with water. Which is basically what happened, as the aluminium melted and came in contact with water from the sprinklers on the storys below the impact site. Hence the explosions.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040657/Explosions-caused-jet-fuel-water-sprinklers-brought-Twin-Towers-9-11-scientists-say.html

    Now I admit, I am alot "Christian" at the moment here, but it is said, that the devil walks around as a roaring lion. Yet people keep on making up snakes in the grass that noone can see but is easy to be mighty brave against. All the while the roaring keeps on in the horizon. Don't be daft, don't be brave against invisible enemies.
     
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  18. Sucky

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    are the black box's made from aluminum too?

    those terrorist issue passports are made of tough stuff eh. :D
     
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    Some argue that the Earth is flat and that Lee Trundle was a Championship quality striker. Some people are just idiots.
     
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  20. Sucky

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    not to change the subject but you quash the theory of an inside job yet believe in God?
    just an observation.
     
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