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Not606 Italian GP Chat and Predictions

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by TomTom94, Sep 3, 2013.

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Who's got the biggest spaghetti and meatballs?

Poll closed Sep 5, 2013.
  1. Sebastian Vettel

    6 vote(s)
    27.3%
  2. Fernando Alonso

    7 vote(s)
    31.8%
  3. Lewis Hamilton

    6 vote(s)
    27.3%
  4. Kimi Raikkonen

    1 vote(s)
    4.5%
  5. Mark Webber

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Nico Rosberg

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Felipe Massa

    1 vote(s)
    4.5%
  8. Romain Grosjean

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Jenson Button

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Paul di Resta

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. Adrian Sutil

    1 vote(s)
    4.5%
  12. Sergio Perez

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. Other (please specify)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. DHCanary

    DHCanary Very Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Alonso's podium snap:

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  2. TomTom94

    TomTom94 Well-Known Member

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    I think the fact they changed it to 1/100 will work in your favour, that's ridiculous <laugh>
     
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  3. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    Like I said you could just claim they gave you a "Trojan Horse" of a bet only to go back on it regardless so they could make a few extra grand as a sort of Honey pot trap. To be honest if you were really serious you could say you would report it to the police that you were being scammed by a company that still has to abide by certain laws of the country :)
     
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  4. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    If for example Vettel's odds were 1000/1 to win Singapore and they got changed to 1/10 after a few days and claim a "typing error" I would declare BS and say they pulled a honey pot trap and that they did it on purpose to lure more gamblers to earn a bit more money.
     
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  5. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    They should have just cancelled the bets, changing the odds is just asking for trouble and is essentially fraud if its in their favour.
     
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  6. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    By the way, do we believe Red Bull had gearbox problems or a tactic to slow their drivers down to keep the 1-3?
     
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  7. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    You should get your stake back as they cannot change the odds once you have made your bet. If they claim it was an error, they should refund or have notified you of the change to decide if you wished to keep the bet, as if the odds had been correct at the time you wouldn't have placed that bet.

    They can't just massively change the odds and keep your stake, otherwise there'd be nothing stopping any betting firm from doing it whenever they wished if it looked like they were about to lose a big amount of money. Imagine the grand national odds being changed for everyone mid-race!?
     
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  8. TomTom94

    TomTom94 Well-Known Member

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    I think Horner would have loved the opportunity to get one over on Ferrari and get the 1-2 at their home race but given that Webber stopped on the track at the end of the race, he must have had some form of issue.
     
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  9. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    Ok so just to slow Vettel down then?
     
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  10. u408379965

    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    Personally I think the bet should stand. If you accidentally place the wrong bet you bound by it, if they accidentally post the wrong odds they should be too. At the very least they should refund the bets though, to change the odds after taking the money is disgraceful. What a bunch of ****s.
     
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  11. TomTom94

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    Oh that's probably a tactic, making sure he had enough fuel in case Alonso suddenly made a push.
     
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  12. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    Judging by the fact they had to swap out gears prior to the race... I'd assume the problem was genuine.
     
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  13. u408379965

    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    I hope not. I've criticised them in the past for crying wolf and deliberately giving Vettel false information, it weakens the trust between driver and engineer. If Vettel had been in Webber's situation there's a chance he could've ignored his team thinking they were lying, gone for second and broke his car.

    I don't think they were making it up though. Both gearboxes were damaged after qualifying, it was a gearbox that took Vettel out of the British GP too. I think they have a few gremlins there.
     
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  14. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    Nah like I said back a few pages they do that at almost every race.
     
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  15. SgtBhaji

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    Possibly because their gear box isn't entirely free from hiccups.
     
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  16. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe but it's the first time I've heard of this problem with the previous changing before the race.
     
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  17. SgtBhaji

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    I'm just working off the assumption that there must be some concerns if it's a common practice for them.
     
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  18. The Iceman

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    There is a betting watchdog, can't remember their name though. Ask over on the horse racing board. Odds are odds and that is a bullshit excuse. Sounds similar to what happened to my mate and it's against the law. Don't take it lying down.
     
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  19. The Iceman

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    They can't ****ing do that. Once you strike a bet they can't change odds.
     
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  20. TomTom94

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    I don't think betting is the same as ordering goods online (where if they set a price they have to abide by it) but I certainly think they are obligated to refund you if the odds change.
     
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