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Spare Parts (F1 odds and ends)

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Masanari, Sep 22, 2011.

  1. Han Shot First

    Han Shot First New Member

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    I'd love them to do that.
     
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  2. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    It'd be great, but don't ever imagine seeing it in Bernie's lifetime... And he's undead.
     
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  3. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    FA @ joseluisf1
    • Gazzetta speaks of a meeting with Domenicali and Newey on Thursday at 21:40
    • According to Gazzetta, the signing of Newey would be one of the conditions for the arrival of Vettel to Ferrari in 2015
     
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  4. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    I know it's a long shot, but anybody watching Indy from Sonoma?
     
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  5. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    It's a race of yellows today... Still surprisingly more exciting than Spa.
     
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  6. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    Crazy race... lots of controversy... bonkers stuff.
     
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  7. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    lol

    [video=youtube_share;r7dVWDdzNjE]http://youtu.be/r7dVWDdzNjE?t=11s[/video]
     
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  8. BrightLampShade

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    Autosport F1 costs data: http://plus.autosport.com/premium/feature/5530/the-true-cost-of-formula-1/

    RED BULL RACING

    Budget: £235.5m (estimated)
    Income: £240m
    Profit: £4.5m net
    Income breakdown:
    £110m Red Bull
    £60m sponsors
    £70m FOM earnings 2012

    SCUDERIA FERRARI

    Budget: £250m (inc engines)
    Income: £260m
    Profit: £10m (group) 2012
    Income breakdown:
    £160m sponsors, inc FIAT/Ferrari
    £20m customers
    £80m FOM earnings 2012

    MCLAREN RACING

    Budget: £160m
    Income: £180m
    Profit: £20m (2011)
    Income breakdown:
    £120m sponsors
    £60m FOM earnings 2012

    MERCEDES GRAND PRIX

    Budget: £160m (inc engines)
    Income: £150m
    Profit: -£10m 2011
    Income breakdown:
    £50m Daimler
    £60m sponsors
    £40m FOM earnings 2012

    LOTUS

    Budget: £130m
    Income: £120m
    Profit: -£10m
    Income breakdown:
    £30m Genii
    £45m sponsors
    £45m FOM earnings 2012

    FORCE INDIA

    Budget: £100m
    Income: £75m
    Profit: -£25m
    Income breakdown:
    £30m group companies
    £10m sponsors
    £35m FOM earnings 2012

    SAUBER

    Budget: £90m
    Income: £75m
    Profit: -£15m
    Income breakdown:
    £40m sponsors
    £35m FOM earnings 2012

    WILLIAMS

    Budget: £90m purified, (exc Hybrid Power)
    Income: £90m
    Profit: £0m Even
    Income breakdown:
    £30m PDVSA
    £28m sponsors
    £32m FOM earnings 2012

    TORO ROSSO

    Budget: £70m
    Income: £70m
    Profit: £0m Even
    Income breakdown:
    £32m Red Bull
    £8m other
    £30m FOM earnings 2012

    CATERHAM

    Budget: £65m
    Income: £65m
    Profit: £0m Even
    Income breakdown:
    £26m group
    £9m driver and other sponsors
    £30m FOM earnings 2012

    MARUSSIA

    Income: £51m
    Budget: £51m
    Profit: £0m Even
    Income breakdown:
    £30m Marussia
    £15m driver and other sponsors
    £6m FOM earnings 2012
     
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  9. TomTom94

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    How come Caterham earned £30m from FOM and Marussia £6m? I didn't think the gulf in prize money was that big.

    Also rather shows the financial state of F1 - check out the amount of external investment needed even at the top just to break even.
     
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  10. Paco Montoya

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    Poor MArussia, I bought a wallet off them recently, I might own part of them now!
     
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  11. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    The top teams earn more from FOM than the lower teams have to survive on for an entire season.... and then they scratch their heads as to how to level the playing field.

    Not exactly rocket science is it?
     
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  12. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Mercedes, lotus, sauber, and force India are spending more money than marussia and caterham yet making less profit.

    Also it's clear marussia and caterham will never close the gap with the budget they have mainly due to the massive gulf in FOM prize money
     
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  13. BrightLampShade

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    Since theres no race thread (and I'll make one tonight if needed) the forecast is currently for thunder storms on Saturday.
     
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  14. RoadRunner

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  16. JonnyBaws

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    Hmm, not sure this will look as good as Abu Dhabi or Singapore, both those venues have surrounding buildings/marina/fancy coloured hotel that make the race "pop" more at night, the Bahrain GP is in the middle of a desert, not sure how good that will look at night?
     
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  17. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    oh but they do have the funky palm trees with the red strip lights around them which I want in my garden...
     
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  18. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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  19. JonnyBaws

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    Well they better go about planting another 4,578 more! 4,579 would have been too much IMHO!
     
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  20. DHCanary

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    Pretty meaningless, but I quite liked it:

    Raikkonen is very similar to the dutch, "Rij-kunnen", which translates as "can drive".

    Seems apt.
     
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