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Some ones not telling the truth

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by The greengrocer, Sep 4, 2013.

  1. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    But I will have saved you and invested in you. Exactly the same as the Allam family has done with Hull City AFC.

    You wouldn't even exist but a memory if not for me, so I should be able to do with you as I like, no?
     
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  2. The Omega Man

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    Great chat up line.....
     
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    Where would you have drawn the line then?
     
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  4. originallambrettaman

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    Personally, I don't have any issue with Assem saying 'we went for a striker, but they wanted £6.5m cash and we wanted £5.5m with the rest in add-on's'. I just wish he'd say it.
     
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  5. Fez

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    He doesn't need to say it, why should he? Is it possible the relationship with Bruce is damaged, or perhaps it's another nail in the NT coffin? If you were involved in a failed business negotiation, would you declare what your position was if there was no advantage in doing so - other than a bit of thread wittering that will disappear quicker than the beautiful Debbie McGee. :huh:
     
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  6. The Omega Man

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    Edited
     
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    He doesn't need to, but damage limitation is often a good ploy.
     
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  8. Fez

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    I think we all have the same sentiments at heart. I dislike ignore buttons (deal with it!), PMs, the refuge of a . . . on a forum (ish).

    But seriously, OLM, damage limitation??

    It is their piss poor comms that creates their problems. They have ambition, but they need perspective, they need a few bob, but most of all they need a professional to do this job. You've met NT and have given him support and in the absence of anything deeper I will trust that. It's not about web one-up-man-ship, but very much about our club. If anyone wishes to listen, we are in good shape; seriously. Our owner frustrates me and I think he underestimates the supporters (or does he??), but we could be far worst off than we are. (Danny Graham will be the man)
     
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  9. Amin Yapusi

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    It's funny, how you've described and I think of our owner, like a child who just needs guiding and time to mature. He's about 80 years old and a successful business entrepreneur.
     
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  10. The Omega Man

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    My very first post on any forum was made because posters where mis-reading a newspaper article. Not much has changed over the years.

    My personal opinion (this is the first time that I have posted this) is that instead of challenging Assem Allam, we should look at him as we would any elder member of our family. Accept that at his age and with his cultural background, he talks in a manner that requires the listener to be generous. There is no one to put him right when he takes the wrong path. His visions for the future are often going to be unrealistic, but he is determined and he believes that they are right. With the security of his wealth, he can and will follow his dreams. His sponsorship of the World Squash event, is an example.
    The WBA situation should not be read into, we took a punt and it nearly paid off, but the only thing that backfired was the timing, so what.
    The club name changes are difficult as I don't think that anyone told had Assem of the importance to the fans of the full club name.
    I have not read, heard or seen anything that indicates to me that the Allam family are doing anything that they consider to be negative. We need to get things in perspective, oppose the changes that we disagree with, but at the same time respect the man for what he has and could do for the club. From the very start there has been this undercurrent of distrust from some quarters.
    One last thing. Insolvency and administration require hard decisions to be made and in the past Assem Allam has had to do what some have found hard to bear. If it wasn't him, it would have been someone else. It's time that his business past was looked at in the right way.
     
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  11. Fez

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    A view from some quarters <whistle> ,

    I spoke to my father and he listened, my father spoke to me and I listened, we both learnt from each other but we did not always agree. I don't presume the Allem's are any different.
    The generosity of our public and passionate voice is there to offer guidance; does he have a desire or inclination to listen?
    Forty-odd years of living within the British / European culture should have been an adequate learning curve for such an astute business-oriented man.
    In the absence of an outright denial, I am tending to believe that the name-change is not universally respected within Allam Halls. They may sense a generosity of negativity from those for whom they seek to act as benefactors; they may choose to ignore that.
    There has been constant acknowledgement of the good Dr Assem Allam has bestowed upon Kingston-Upon-Hull, his poorly considered words and actions are equally well acknowledged.
    His business past is nothing more than a mis-direction in this and there we have another Beautiful Debbie McGee moment, just ripe for editing! <cheers>
     
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    Hmm, how Rupert Murdoch of him :emoticon-0112-wonde
     
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  13. The Omega Man

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    I fully understand your point Fez and actually it is not you who I was thinking of when posting. I am simply less suspicious of the man and family. My view has actually changed through my own experience in the last year.
    In Hull City terms, it is I believe a mystery to Assem Allam, why he is not venerated and trusted in everything he does. I can understand why he isn't, but I don't think he can. For him, things like the stadium purchase and the name changes are positives and he cannot see why there is any opposition. If he donates money there is always that under current of what's in it for him. I do not support everything that he does, but what I am saying is that I believe that we are better with him than without him and his family.
     
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