I've watched it a bunch of times, and I still can't tell one way or the other. I will say that I think Jay Rodriguez has bad position/situational awareness. He's always cutting it really close and with his speed he can wait just a tiny tick longer or stay back an extra foot. I'm not sure how you fix that, though. You can't think about waiting or you'll hesitate too long. You just have to adjust your internal instinctive clock and always be automatically aware of the situation. Hopefully with a bit more experience, Rodriguez will get the hang of it. Lambert always seems to know just when to make his move. And he also knows when he is offside. So many times I've seen Lambert refuse to play a ball and think "What's he doing?" and then I realize he knew he was offside and didn't want to interfere with play. For example, last week I think that Lambert would not have lunged at that cross because he would have realized 1) he was offside, 2) he didn't have a play on it, and 3) Lallana was right there. I don't know if it would have changed the call or not.
please log in to view this image I can show you how I straightened the line on video if someone gets pedantic. I turned the whole image so the line was straight up and down to the human eye. I obviously zoomed and cropped also.
Surely this whole argument is rather redundant? The linesman had one, very brief, look on which to make his decision. Even if we was wrong, it was never a howler. Some of the stick the officials have received on here for the decision is ridiculous.
The linesman has to be 'totally sure' the player is offside to flag by the rules. If he's not sure he's supposed to keep his flag down. That's the reason it's a bad decision. This is the last thing I am saying about it now.
Well actually this proves he is offside, you have straightened out the line furthest to the left but as you can see the lines still change as we go from left to right, so if he is perfectly level there we know he a tiny bit offside as the line that goes through lallana would not be perfectly straight as you have it. If that makes sense?
The incident is history now, although i would say that JRod has been a touch unlucky with marginal offside decisions both last season and thus far this season.
The yellow defender at the top is touching the dotted line and Rodriguez isn't..that's what shows he's onside as the defender is closer to the goal.. The problem is the cut of the grass isn't parallel with the penalty box line. That's what's confusing you and others into thinking he's offside (and the linesman). It's exactly why I left the dotted lines there..
Why don't we just drop it. Rightly or wrongly it was given and it was so close you can't argue with the assistant's call. Anyone who says otherwise is spouting absolute bullshit.
The dotted lines don't aren't parallel with the penalty box either. And look at the shape of the D. Your image isn't straight.
Are you joking? You are getting very confused by the cut of the grass. It's not parallel with the edge of the box. I didn't do the lines you realise. It did them for me..you've done those manually and they aren't parallel to each other... Look at my actual post above and not the quotes as I edited it slightly before. The dotted lines are all perfectly parallel with the edge of the penalty box in my image.
well whoever did the first image proved that yes, the grass lines were parallel with the box, also i know my lines are not parallel that's the whole reason your ones are wrong, you havent thought of field of view at all! as the lines go to the right the angle they are at will increase
It's hard to explain, but his lines are actually more accurate than yours. The only way your dotted lines could line up correctly is if you did it from a bird's eye view.
I totally agree with the point that the lino has to be 100% that the player is offside to raise his flag, as this debate clearly shows, no human could make the offside or onside in that split second, the lino`s need to stop attention seeking (or dare i say being biased). The Prem league always wanted more goals in a game, that`s why we have 3 points for a win instead of 2, maybe this is another way the could influence more goals into games.