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Would it be wrong to say Lewis was "nowhere" until test-gate?

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by 51LV3R8RR04, Aug 21, 2013.

  1. Han Shot First

    Han Shot First New Member

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    I'm a bit disappointed that Marklamaarscheesyfingerburger has taken my role as chief Hamilton basher. I worked hard for that role.
     
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  2. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    You're fine, his bashing is very second rate ;)
     
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  3. Poolliver LallanaDelRey

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    Before the illegal testing Mercedes were still getting pole positions.

    To enforce this argument could we look at Rosberg's figures: Didn't he score more pole positions before the testing than he did after the testing? From these figures the team actually looks worse off (of course I am not arguing this, I am just showing how the same figures seem to show a contradiction)

    I personally believe a big part of Hamilton's performance shift if due to settling in to a new team. There is no doubt the testing putting Mercedes at an advantage and gave the car more "race pace". But really: Mercedes were a top 4 team (this year) before the testing.

    That said if the illegal testing did not take part I can not deny: I doubt Hamilton would have as many points on the board as he does now. The testing defiantly contributed somewhat (just not as much as people think it did).
     
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  4. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    Your bashing is far superior. ;)
     
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  5. dhel

    dhel Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree
     
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  6. dhel

    dhel Well-Known Member

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    That analysis is totally off base. He is a completely racer. Tell me about a racer who doesn't want to win or accepts second best is telling me about a loser. My opinion.
     
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  7. dhel

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    Would you say his pole today was due to illegal tests? Did they test the wet tyres in wet conditions too? He said today his dashboard was showing he was some seconds behind so he just decided to push really hard in the middle sector then he realized he was catching Vettel so I guess once he was catching Vettel quickly then i am to assume he must have been going quicker. Today's pole was down to great lap position at the end, great driving and common sense but also a really good setup for the changing conditions.
     
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  8. ErnieBecclestone

    ErnieBecclestone Well-Known Member

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    Nice balanced view here, eh !!!

    Not sure I totally agree with any of this bollocks.:emoticon-0111-blush
     
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  9. marklarmergerbilfarmer

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    lol soooo much crying over one persons different opinion. Rather obvious advice for lurkers and new users - yeah don't even bother posting, unless you plan to just agree with or repeat what someone else has already said.
     
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  10. BrightLampShade

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  11. marklarmergerbilfarmer

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    i agree
     
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  12. ErnieBecclestone

    ErnieBecclestone Well-Known Member

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    Great reply, as expected, balanced, thought through and not a single spelling mistake, try and keep up the good work.
     
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  13. Max Whiplash

    Max Whiplash Well-Known Member

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    I think this is a very good point. On another thread Miggins inadvertently described it as "teste gate" and indeed, as far as I'm concerned, it's a load of bollocks that Lewis's performance is all down to those three days under the Barcelona sun.

    I think it's worth pointing out that when I joined this forum 2+ years ago, it was much more hostile to Hamilton than it is today. I'd conclude from this that Lewis has, if not won more people over as fans, then at least he has earned some respect for his behaviour both on and off the track since then.
     
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  14. remraflibregremralkram

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    mmm i agree
     
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  15. remraflibregremralkram

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    mmm i agree
     
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  16. Di Resta is faster than u

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    Would it be a mistake to mention Vettel was nowhere until Red-Bull ;)
     
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  17. remraflibregremralkram

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    whhaatt?
     
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  18. dhel

    dhel Well-Known Member

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    Lol. Are u trying to cause a riot?<steam>
     
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  19. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Well Lewis's biggest problem before the test was getting used to the brakes. He mentioned several times before that he needed time to adapt to them. That test provided several hundred laps for him to get used to them. So I don't think anybody can deny that Lewis got the biggest benifit from this test.
     
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  20. Max Whiplash

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    You may have a point ;)
     
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