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Time now for the sas go into to syria

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by jonathan acworth 71, Aug 22, 2013.

  1. DevAdvocate

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    From what we are being told the Syrian Government have admitted that their troops were actively engaged at the time. They are denying responsibilty though.

    Maybe the Rebels have Rocket delivery systems too, but if they do I don't see how they would have either the capability or the expertise to hit the targets so accurately, if at all.

    The French and the UK Governments seem to be following that line of reasoning.
     
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    Fair points, but the French and UK governments make up whatever they can to suit their anti Assad agenda.

    I don't think we're in a position to judge who has capability to do what, but I don't see that they need to be accurate anyway. As it's not known where the rockets are fired from, for all we know they could have been fired by the rebels from there at the centre of Damascus, and they just blew up in their faces when they were trying to fire them or something.
     
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    Just read an article which appears to suggest that this was not in fact a "Chemical" attack, it seems more likely to have been a large concentration of some form of tear gas. Looks closer to the truth. If that's the case and it was not Chemical weapons then the Rebels could be back in the frame.

    Western experts on chemical warfare who have examined at least part of the footage are skeptical that weapons-grade chemical substances were used, although they all emphasize that serious conclusions cannot be reached without thorough on-site examination.

    Dan Kaszeta, a former officer of the U.S. Army's Chemical Corps and a leading private consultant, pointed out a number of details absent from the footage so far: "None of the people treating the casualties or photographing them are wearing any sort of chemical-warfare protective gear," he says, "and despite that, none of them seem to be harmed." This would seem to rule out most types of military-grade chemical weapons, including the vast majority of nerve gases, since these substances would not evaporate immediately, especially if they were used in sufficient quantities to kill hundreds of people
     
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    I agree with you for once THFC.
     
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    And what would that agenda be do you think?
     
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    Are you of the view that the British and French governments don't have an anti Assad agenda ?
     
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    The "rebels" do have the ability as shown by two previous chemical attacks on SAA positions. The have plenty of grad rockets and the like taken from looted bases in the North of the country Russia has stated their data shows the projectile came from within a rebel held area, I'm going to believe Russia in this one over William 14 pints Hague
     
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    They were never out of the frame, it's just that you've done an about turn in the space of 10 minutes.
     
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    I don't believe a word that Cameron or Hague say to be honest with you. They're a joke.
     
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    I typed out a fairly detailed summary previously of the agend of each actor in this conflict. Will try and find it for you as I aint typing that out again
     
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    Jakey's been watching RT again all morning to pretend he's intelligent.
     
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    Answer a question with a question?

    I don't play that game, sorry.

    If you want to discuss agendas then feel free but it bores me to tears in all honesty, there is nothing more likely to have me running for the hills than the evil Imperialist argument.

    This is a cyclical argument, I could as easily suggest you have an Anti French/British agenda and you likewise in turn could counter that I have an anti Assad agenda, the difference is you would be correct, because I have an agenda against all despots and murdering tyrants with no mandate to rule.

    I'm old fashioned that way.

    Let's leave it at that.
     
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    I tend not to believe anything the Russiians say Jacky.
     
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    That's because you're a sucker who's believed the western bullsh*t.
     
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    That's two threads today you have been stalking me. Not obsessed, no not toby
     
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    No madate to rule? American intelligence themselves are of the opinion 70% of the population are behind Assad. He won the last election comfortably.
    Dont use such meaningless emotive language as "mudering tyrant" as you know it doesn't portray the real picture.
     
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    I would like to thank you for saving me the time arguing with you <laugh>

    I'll bet you love a good conspiracy theory too? Twin Towers - False Flag.
     
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    So, just like Mugabe then?
     
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    from a previous post a while back

     
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