I am evading nothing Rob. As I told you in post number 140. I am happy to take you through your 9000 years of I'll informed ****e. The logical place to start would be... Well. The start. I would advise that the more **** you post, the longer it'll take. Now I'm not the smartest man in the world, but I know a bit about the human condition. For example, I have shared knowledge with you to help you understand how you were mistaken on the first settlers to Ireland. I know that you have taken that on board and put it into your google machine and discovered that I am right. I mentioned in post 106 that pride would stop you from acknowledging your mistake. I adduce from the edited text of your post 256 that you are a little less confident than before. The rest of post 256 is something we can get to, but lets take one mistake at a time and agree that you got that one wrong. Then we can move on?
The DNA of Irish people and British people is relatively speaking effectively identical. The old irish myth that irish peoples descendants sailed directly from central Europe and landed in the west of Ireland before spreading across the island, is no more than a fairytale. This has been proven in scientific genetic research. We are the same race, and the same people, subject to some very minor deviations due to regional migrations over the course of history. Both the Britons and the people of Ireland prior to the Viking invasions (ie including the celts) came originally from Iberia. As one of the most respected historians who has covered the topic, I’ll take Robert Kee’s explanation that the first people to set foot in Ireland came from Scotland, but whether you believe that or whether you believe something else (and the evidence is that they walked from somewhere to the north east corner of Ireland – which just happened to be connected at the time to Scotland by a land bridge ), it doesn’t affect the fact that we are descended from the same people and are the same race. The racists who try to claim Ireland is a separate race to the English are wrong. One of the reasons that the Irish consider their independence legitimate is that they claim to be a different race of people to the British. Like their other ‘grounds’ for legitimacy as an independent nation though, it’s baseless.
This is a fantastic thread . Highly informative , educational even . Who knew that 67% of Irish folk in Ireland voted for somebody in 1937 . Or in fact their ancestors sailed from central Europe . Up the Danube no doubt or maybe it was the Rhine . Anyhoo i especially liked the bit where a guy called Mick O'Toon called somebody else a racist due to his racial stereotyping of the Irish people . That's a cracker to be sure .
38% to be precise. And they weren't voting for "somebody", they were voting for a proposed constitution which purported to make Ireland independent from the British Empire.
Sadly, neither did the british government, which is why they abandoned the irish unionists in the south and let the republicans take it.
Emmm .......nope still don't care . Why are you arguing the toss with Irish folk about their ethnicity ? Why do you care where they think they came from ? What ****ing difference does it makr anyway ? Next you'll be ranting about invertebrates and what ****ing bubbling swamp we all crawled from . The Irish mentality is steeped in an inherent sense of injustice . Some of it warranted . They have nurtured these feelings for centuries . Trying to reason with them is pointless . It's the equivalent of kicking away a cripples crutch so leave the guys alone . Bully.
