right so here's your list then (I didn't see it in you post before). experiences = 800 years of assimilation expectations and socio-economic status = Britain gave similar economic status to Ireland. that was the point of the union. Ireland shared the british empire and the rewards of it, with the rest of the uk. qualifications = everyone on both islands was qualified as british. ancestry = so you are now saying it is relevant ? as shown above, there is a shared ancestory. culture (e.g. religion, customs and language) = same religion, same customs, same language. nationality = all british/uk geography = both in the british isles there we go then have you got anything else, because based on that it looks like we're the same country
I said it "links back" you ***** not "looks bad" and you have proved how it does link back and how you change the argument to suit your demented point of view. You claim the 98.9% to be a massive victory yet ignore the impact of the boycott (called for by the SDLP, not the IRA. Another humiliating oversight on your part) and a major cause of the boycott as nationalists were still campaigning for "one man one vote" at this stage further invalidating the "landslide majority" You cant have it both ways, either recognise the result of both referendums consider them both invalid for stated behind the scenes reasons. You cannot pick and choose. Also Sinn Fein did **** all in 1937, it was Fianna Fail. Another humiliating fail. You really need to start getting the details right
sinn fein/fianna fail was basically the same thing people called the easter rising the sinn fein rising when they didn't have anything to do with it. it's all the same difference. bunch of backward provos who've nothing better to do - what does it matter what you call them ? regarding me choosing 1 vote but not the other, I can if I want because one was lawful and the other wasn't, and because in one 98% of those who hadn't been intimidated out of voting voted the same way, and in the other just over 50% of those who bothered to vote voted the same way. if you're saying it's a question of both or neither of them though then it would be neither because one of them was meaningless and the other just kept the status quo. on that basis everyone in Ireland would still owe an allegiance to the Queen, as they should by law and right anyway.
I have pointed out the flaws in their sampling methodology. I dont see any peer review on the study. Justification for Ireland, of Celtic descent, different cultures, customs, language, religion that the occupying British attempted to destroy but have managed to be continued on regardless, oh and a democratic majority. Hows that? Like it or not that democratic majority is soon to rear its head in NI. Then the fun begins
Stopped reading there you raging bigot. Provos formed in 1969, have never had any connection the IRA of the 1920s. Im honestly going to stop it here as your bitterness and barely disguised bigoted and sectarianism has shown you up more than the dismantling of your misinformation ever could. I have things planned for tomorrow, good night
You said earlier that genetics wasn't a factor, now you're saying it is a factor, but as we saw earlier, the east of Ireland (at least) is the same genetically as England. Are you now saying that only the west of Ireland should be independent ? as regards to the british trying to destroy the religion in Ireland, that's got to be some kind of joke. paganism was practised in Ireland until the English introduced Catholicism. so, we later got a bit picky about whether people called themselves protestant or catholic. it doesn't make any difference anyway, it's basically the same thing.
No, I basically queried who had mentioned geneaology as you kept bringing up your pathetic map Replace "East" with Dublin, and "same" with similar No, at no point was anything of the sort inferred as geneaology is one constituent of a range of factors, oh and Dublin recorded the highest support for the 1937 constitution at around 67%. A nice little democratic majority I take it you have not read up on the Penal Laws the English did not introduce Catholicism as England did not exist at the time Do not brush over the persecution and misery caused by british impositions on the island as "getting picky" over religion. The getting picky was initiated by the British in an attempt to impose the Anglican doctrine Oiche mhaith Rob
i list a whole post ive typed out before getting prompted to log in. re your claim to have built one of the world's best economies or whatevr your claim was. you were given a free country on a plate. with buiidings infrastructure, everything. for free. we then paid you millions of pounds a year through the 1920s to give you a bit of a start. somehow you managed to go bankrupt, and came back to us cap in hand for a bailout because - like your history - your whole economy was a total sham. how you call that a success i dont know. it makes greece look like an economic miracle.
1. it was brought up by others. i responded to that. you then said it wasnt relevant but then when i asked why you thought ireland should be a seperate country you brought it up again 2. almost identical. and it's not just dublin. we have identical original ancestory, and most of ireland shares recent ansestory with england as well. 3. the highest support for the constitution 67% most whole countries vote about 90% plus for those things, and you had a highest areas of 67% . these are the same people who spat on and heckled those involved in the easter rising. they probably only voted so they could get out of the upcoming war with the nzais, just as those in the rising had been the only ones who didnt go off to fight the germans in ww1 and instead tried to arrange an invasion by the germans 4. catholic/proestant makes no difference. same thing. christian v pagan big difference. 5. it wasnt called england when patrick took christianity to ireland for the first time, but it was when we had to reintroduce it in the early 12th century after it had died out 6. again, catholic, protestant, it makes no difference. that is not grounds to have a separate country.
I didnt read all this although I did see some inaccuracies the provos in 1937 thry joined forces with al qaida in 1954 as far as I can remember.
