[video=youtube;KQ4lvUJ39fE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KQ4lvUJ39fE[/video] As a young lad listening to them and The Clash,Ub40,The Selector gave me a understanding about racism all be it in a foreign country till I went there meself and 2013 still eeejits singing the same old tune.**** me,I despair
Was my stereotypical joke more offensive than the other stereotypical jokes that litter this thread then ?
Mickey engages in banter with pretty much everyone on this forum and I have never seen him post in this vein before. the British / Irish ****e flows freely on here and usually the happy go lucky posters let it go. he,and I for that matter, think you've crossed it. if you have a problem with what other people have posted tell them rather than resort to ****e which offends nice people like him.
Maybe just me but I listened to and bought all those bands along with Killing Joke,Steel Pulse etc as I lived with me ma in Dublin and had a vision when I went to live and work in London<10 years> that it was a melting pot of international love,but seemingly not.
what a load of b******. there have been jokes on this thread about people being murdered, there's a joke on this thread about Jews, I've seen comments on another thread using the most racist language imaginable that would be an arrestable offence, and you are suggesting that I've crossed a line by telling a joke about potatoes ? get to f*k.
anyway, for the avoidance of doubt, I am not racist against irish people or anyone else, and I apologise if my joke caused offence. I was merely picking up on a similar joke someone else had just made, but if for some reason mine was offensive, either to Michael Collins fans, potato fans, irish people, english people, or anyone else, then sorry about that.
I can kind of understand the reaction to my contribution in a way, because I joined in a thread that was meant to be a joke, and I made comments which I was sincere about. It probably made it 'worse' when I then mixed that sincerity with humour of the kind which others were indulging in, because it gave the appearance that I was setting out to offend, rather than to inform. In my defence, the thread itself is at best highly controversial, being about a man who - regardless of his other capabilities - was known to be responsible for acts of murder and terrorism . Essentially though, posting the topic in celebration of the man is essentially saying, "let's make some jokes about those british people who were shot, and celebrate the fact that society finds this acceptable"; and incredibly, because of the jaundice in historical understanding of the relationship between England and Ireland, society does appear to find this acceptable, and indeed encourages people to consider those who might question it, to be morally objectionable. It seems to be the accepted position that even though people may engage in banter about the issues, when it comes down to it, everybody is expected to recognise deep down that the british are a bunch of c**** who were justly chased out of a land they had no place to be in, whilst the irish were lovable rogues who have bravely defended their homeland. As I have pointed out, the actual truth (at least in the 20th century) is very different to what is commonly understood now (whether people wish to believe that or not). Because of the discrimination in modern society against the english though, it is considered unacceptable to point that out. It’s this that is the ‘racism’ though, not my objection to it. The fact that I have been accused of racism (and the fact that people's reaction to my comments is to assume that they are racist) is ironic not only because my comments are the antithesis of racism on the basis that they are shunning the accepted moral castigation of the british, but because my comments are also the antithesis of racism on the basis that whereas the Irish try to portray themselves as some kind of different race, part of what I have pointed out is that that is not true and we are all the same. That isn’t racism. Racism is pointing out differences between groups of people, not pointing out that they are the same, and my contribution to this thread is actually probably less racist or discriminatory, and in less bad taste, than any of the contributions to the discussion.
