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Not606 2013 Spa-Francorchamps GP Chat & Predictions

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by 51LV3R8RR04, Aug 18, 2013.

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It's time!

Poll closed Aug 22, 2013.
  1. Vettel 172pts

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  2. Kimi 134pts

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  3. Alonso 133pts

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  4. Lewis 124pts

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  5. Webber 105pts

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  6. Rosberg 84pts

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  7. Massa 61pts

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  8. Grosjean 49pts

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  9. Button 39 pts

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  10. Di Resta 36pts

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  11. Sutil 20pts

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  12. Perez 18pts

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  13. Other...

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  1. RoadRunner

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  2. BrightLampShade

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    Well there was a 0% chance of rain today so Spa is living up to its reputation so far :)
     
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  3. BrightLampShade

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    MercedesAMGF1 prepared frontwings with old version of infrared cameras. See the cables running to the center

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    Here's the new ultra slim low downforce rearwing red bull racing will be using in Spa FP1

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    WilliamsF1Team not running the big curved rear wing. This one is mounted on both cars (DRS open/closed):
     
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  4. Forza Bianchi

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    lol Vettel and Bottas fail
     
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  5. BrightLampShade

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    I'm refraining from any mocking until the session is over and the drivers I like are safe <laugh>

    Vettels really got the wrong rear wing for this kind of weather.
     
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  6. BrightLampShade

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    Ferrari F138 - New Rear Wing with low AoA and smaller DRS actuator #TechF1 via @suttonimages



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    Mercedes W04 -Front Wing from the underside (Great shot by @SuttonImages)




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    Lotus E21 - New Front Wing notice the rapid prototyped endplate to the Cascade & lower flick



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    McLaren MP4/28 - Lower Downforce Rear Wing #TechF1 via @SuttonImages



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    Lotus E21- DRD shows the shorter periscope version with the outlets ahead of the new 'Monkey Seat'
     
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  7. Forza Bianchi

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    Alonso looked competitive in those conditions with his higher downforce rear wing - his times in the middle sector were amazing. With rain forecast for Saturday and Sunday, I wonder if others will switch to a higher downforce wing. Apparently Ferrari were running with a lot more rake, that might have helped.

    This weekend could be very good for Alonso.
     
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  8. BrightLampShade

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    It also makes your first prediction correct <ok>

    Alonso's wing is still pretty shallow but its Monaco spec compared to Red Bull's!

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  9. Forza Bianchi

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    Good article here:

    http://www.f1zone.net/news/trackside-at-spa-francorchamps-fp1/20108/

    I love that final sentence. Bianchi needs a better car next year.
     
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  10. BrightLampShade

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    Time for somewhat irrelevant data (given the weather):

    [TABLE="class: raceResults, width: 715"]
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    [TH="class: Sectors, bgcolor: #FFFFFF, colspan: 4"]Sector #1[/TH]
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    [TH="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Pos[/TH]
    [TH="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]No[/TH]
    [TH="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Driver[/TH]
    [TH="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Time[/TH]
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    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]1[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]15[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Adrian Sutil[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]33.403[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]2[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]14[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Paul di Resta[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]33.572[/TD]
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    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]3[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]18[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Jean-Eric Vergne[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]33.725[/TD]
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    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]4[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]1[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Sebastian Vettel[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]33.755[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]5[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]12[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Esteban Gutierrez[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]33.859[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]6[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]19[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Daniel Ricciardo[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]34.065
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    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]1[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]9[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Nico Rosberg[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]47.941[/TD]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]2[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]3[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Fernando Alonso[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]47.963[/TD]
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    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]3[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]5[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Jenson Button[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]48.213[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]4[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]10[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Lewis Hamilton[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]48.309[/TD]
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    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]5[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]11[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Nico Hulkenberg[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]48.309[/TD]
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    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]6[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]6[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Sergio Perez[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]48.372[/TD]
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    [TABLE="class: raceResults, width: 715"]
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    [TH="class: Sectors, bgcolor: #FFFFFF, colspan: 4"]Sector #3[/TH]
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    [TH="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Time[/TH]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]1[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]14[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Paul di Resta[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]32.122[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]2[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]1[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Sebastian Vettel[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]32.237[/TD]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]3[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]15[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Adrian Sutil[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]32.357[/TD]
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    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]4[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]17[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Valtteri Bottas[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]32.502[/TD]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]5[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]12[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Esteban Gutierrez[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]32.557[/TD]
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    [TR]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]6[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]16[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Pastor Maldonado[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]32.563[/TD]
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    No one was consistent with Alonso's fastest time almost 2s off what could have been the best time. Tricky conditions <ok>
     
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  11. RoadRunner

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    VDG's helmet for his 'home' Grand Prix. That's one of my favourite helmets I've seen this year.

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  12. BrightLampShade

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    Sauber C32 @OfficialSF1Team - Great shot of DRD being installed on the car, (shows the pipework) via @SuttonImages



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    McLaren MP4-28 @McLarenF1 - 3 Vortex Generators above the Sidepod Inlet (Detail Shot) #TechF1 via @SuttonImages



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    McLaren MP4-28 @McLarenF1 - Under Chassis 3 tier Turning Vanes (detail shot) #TechF1 via @SuttonImages



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    Red Bull RB9 New Rear Wing doesn't feature Louvres in the Endplate so not reducing the drag induced vortices #CD
     
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  13. SgtBhaji

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    One down. :p
     
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    Looking forward to some dry running, even though a bit of drizzle always adds drama :)

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    McLaren was testing a high downforce setup in FP1, now comparing with a lower downforce package in FP2. Explains their impressive wet pace <ok>
     
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  15. Forza Bianchi

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    Bianchi really pushing on that lap, rear was sliding a lot
     
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    Reassuring!
     
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    Ferrari's vortices are much straighter, this is due to the conditioning caused by the trailing edge slats.



    McLarens with issues:

     
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    Mercedes struggling or sandbagging?

    Not on the pace
     
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    I was wondering the same thing. I wouldn't be surprised if they were sandbagging as it seems unlikely that both cars would be slower than Vergne and Pérez. Then again, they could be trying things out for tomorrow or Sunday when conditions are expected to be very different from those of this afternoon.
     
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    Blow out for Vettel?

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