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Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Carrick_16, Aug 22, 2013.

  1. HRH Custard VC

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    They will need a replacement for mata <laugh>
     
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  2. Bodinki

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    Worryingly Custard, I think you may be right to be honest.
    I can see no other reason for Chelsea getting involved in this Willian thing.
    We have so many players for his position, I do not see why Jose would bid for him unless:

    a) He has lost his mind
    b) He is looking to replace someone

    Because Willian sure as **** isnt our alternative to Wayne Rooney
     
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  3. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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    Agreed.

    Seems very odd. I think to compete for the top honours you need at least two good players in every position. We already have 6 in the attacking/wide midfield positions so can't see the point in this deal at all, albeit the player is class.

    Maybe just maybe there is a mata / rooney thing on the cards, I just pray there isn't.
     
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  4. One of the lads

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    Is he class? All I know about him is he that has big hair, has spent the majority of his career in the mighty Ukrainian league and up until Chelsea showed an interest in him his main suitors were Liverpool and Spurs. No other Champions League team seems to have batted an eyelid at his availability. Then again he is 25 and Brazilian but so is Anderson who has more caps for Brazil!

    Seems like a very random signing for Chelsea to make.
     
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  5. Drogs

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    He was brilliant the few times I saw him in the CL. But nowhere near as good as Mata and Oscar has potential to be much better. Bizarre approach from us.
     
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  6. Carrick_16

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    This.
     
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  7. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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    Well I've seen him play against us in the C.L twice and he was (alongside Fernandinho) their best player by far. In one of those games they beat us comfortably and i recall he scored twice. I wouldn't go too much off caps for Brazil as they do often pick players from brazilian clubs and the bigger European sides.
     
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  8. Swarbs

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    c) He has no idea and it's Abramovich who made the bid without telling Mourinho

    Based on today's rumours (yes, Daily Fail, I know), it could be a case of Chelsea massively shooting themselves in the foot, as if they sign Willian then Spurs may pull the plug on the Bale deal.

    Spend a load of money on a player you don't need, and as a result make one of your main rivals keep a world class player? Sounds like Roman's idea all the way <ok>
     
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  9. KingEric07.

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    Surely this is Roman just trying to piss Spurs off ?

    Or to may be a tactic to try and panic United to the negoitiating table with them ??
     
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  10. Swarbs

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    Stupid tactic if so.

    "If you don't sell us Rooney, we'll drop our interest and stop trying to unsettle him"

    Could be another Abramovich transfer masterclass...
     
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  11. KingEric07.

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    Chelsea may actually believe that we want to sell Rooney but are playing hard ball to get the best price we can. Can them potentially threatening to walk away and move on to a new player thery might think this will spped to process up ? Depends on what's really being said behind closed doors.
     
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  12. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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    Jesus Swarbs, can't believe you'd quote that absolute nonsense of a story. We all know Spurs won't keep Bale because they are already spending the kitty (broken transfer record twice etc despite no C.L football).

    I'd personally be embarassed to make any post based on a Daily Fail 'story'.

    I agree it looks like spending a load of money on a player we don't need though.
     
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  13. Tobes

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    Levy can't pull the plug on the Bale deal, he's already spent £60m of the fee. If that story has an credence whatsoever, then Levy is talking absolute ****, 100% hollow words.
     
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  14. Drogs

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    Not a clue but I hope we don't go through with it.
     
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  15. Swarbs

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    Can't believe that to be honest - if we actually wanted to sell Rooney then we would be making more of an effort to get other clubs involved. And if they wanted to make a genuine effort to convince us they were after a new player then they would go for someone like Eto'o, who is a realistic substitute for Rooney up front, rather than a player who is essentially the same as a load of players they already have.

    Aye, but he's already recouped £25m of their spending through selling Caulker, Hudd, Dempsey etc. And Spurs still have cash burning a hole from over the last few seasons - they never spent the money they got from Crouch, Keane, Pav etc, nor the big windfall from their one season in the CL.

    The fact they're rumoured to be preparing to spend £60m on Willian and Lamela indicates that they would only be £30m out of pocket if all those moves fell through. And that's not a huge amount for Spurs given they were spending £20m a season not too long ago.
     
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  16. One of the lads

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    Spurs can spend big without having to sell Bale. I think people forget that Joe Lewis owns the club as he's low profile. He's absolutely loaded.
     
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  17. Purley

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    Will bale be worth as much next season though? Two years left on his contract.

    Will Levy take that risk?
     
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  18. One of the lads

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    Spurs will sell Bale. They'd be loopy not to accept that amount of money for a player of his quality. Daniel Levy may be many things but he is not loopy!
     
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  19. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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    Maybe true but there is no logic in Spurs being prepared to sell Bale but then change their mind out of annoyance at us going for Willian.

    So Spurs were willing to weaken their team before but wont now? If they can afford this big splash out regardless of the Bale deal, why sell Bale at all??
     
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  20. Carrick_16

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    Jose will talk to the press at 12pm GMT ahead of #mufc game and is expected to clarify Mata, Willian and Rooney situations.
     
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