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Marquee Signing

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Flappy Flanagan (JK), Jun 4, 2011.

  1. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    A lot of people are saying Liverpool need to include a marquee signings of around £30mill in their summer transfer plans.

    Sure I can see the benefit of this, it would be a great signal of intent and COULD seriously improve the squad.

    But is it really that necessary to spend so big on 1 player as long as the teams weaker points are strengthened enough.

    After the signing of Suarez, who has done a lot for Liverpool already and added some great flare, and the big money splashed on Carroll, a great messege of intent and bravery, I am not sure a marquee signing is worth it. Unless that player is seen as the number 1 best player to improve the team they should not be signed.

    What are your thoughts on this? Should a marquee signing be made for the sake of it? For the sake of a message?

    Football is not just about collecting names.
     
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  2. Chris.

    Chris. #bringbackchris

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    We shouldn't sign a player for the publicity. We should be signing players who Kenny and the backroom team feel can improve the squad. I have faith in King Kenny and the backroom team to make signings to improve the team and squad and not to make back-page headlines. <ok>

    Almost forgot to mention, welcome to the forum!
     
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    Sir_Red Well-Known Member

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    For the sake of it? no. I think like the owners have said, they're not fussed about the price, as long as the player fits the bill. Obviously if someone great is around for that price then fine but I'd be just as happy with 2 or 3 15-20 mill signings (Hazard etc) and offloading Jova etc off the wage bill.
     
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  4. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    Thank you very much
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Hello mate.

    We've been told(sort of)that theres an age limit on Kenny's future buys and that John Henry and his team see youth as the way forward.

    But to be fair they admit they are still on a learning curve about "soccer" and if Kenny(or Camolli)spot a "marquee" signing that they feel will enhance our squad and move us forward im sure they would consider it.

    After all they dont want to see their "investment" slip into obscurity,they are businessmen that will speculate to accumilate.

    Which suits Us,Kenny and them.
     
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  6. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    I feel Suarez will take up the rank of being Liverpools Ronaldo, Messi, Henry (Arsenal) Like figure. The one that makes things happen and who every one loves to watch. I therefor feel Liverpool dont need another player like that exactly. The just not quality, strength and players capable of winning matches.
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Thats sound,but Stevie G will be fit on the opening day and so one of the midfielders will be benched,add to that we need a winger to make Carroll effective,Agger(great on his day)is injury prone so our defence could do with strengthening due to Carras age etc.

    Its only a couple or 3 weeks into the close season but Kenny's job is massive,he knows and uses our youth players,on our day we can kick anyones arse,but strength in depth is what all clubs need.

    Our "saving grace" might be we're not in europe next season.
     
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  8. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    We don't need a 'name' as such and I doubt that KK would want one. From his statements and general demeanour then it is clear that he wants to build a squad of players. After all he has seen the down-side of becoming over-dependant upon talismanic players.

    All imports come with a degree of risk (even UK born players) but I believe that we will be concentrating upon young players who can bring particular skills to the sqaud. What we have to avoid is falling into the trap that Rafa did -high priced potential that was not ultimately fullfilled.
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Spot on Dave

    The beauty is the KK worked at the academy before taking over and knows and trusts our existing youth players.

    It a matter of for us supporters of "In Kenny We Trust",as long as Fenway feel the same we'll progress.

    YNWA
     
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    One thing we should remember this summer is that the press are not going to risk going from the likes of Jovanovic and Poulsen to linking us with the top names, especially without Champions League football, so those names we are not actually after but are in the red tops, are likely to fill us with dread.

    In these instances it's best to remind yourselves that FSG have a history of putting their money where their mouths are, they brought in Damien Comolli (who has found some cracking players before) pretty much just to work on transfers, and we have Kenny Dalglish with the final decision on any players we are to try to sign. Add to this that one reporter (think it was from the Times) tweeted last night that there was a real buzz amongst players and agents around Liverpool, and also the fact that Pepe Reina was absolutely convinced by our summer plans, then you should not let every rumor get to you.

    Personally if we can somehow get Cole off the wage bill and get £3mil as reported then that's great. Get the rest of the dead wood like Jovanovic, Poulsen and Konchesky out. Then as far as our own transfers go the one i said i wanted all along (so my 'marquee' signing of the summer but within the realms of possibility) is Juan Mata. This is based on having watched a good amount of him (full matches) and his stats etc.

    If we were to get Juan Mata, Jordan Henderson, Charlie Adam, Conor Wickham, N'Zogbia/Downing, Phil Jones and whoever is picked for leftback (Baines would be my choice but honestly i'm glad i don't have the headache of choosing that particular position), then that is a substantial outlay, but even most of those players (rather than all) would significantly improve our squad, if not just for the fact we would have much more options.
     
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    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    Let's hope that the press and pundits continue with their delusion that good players will only move for CL football. That should keep them of from the wider levels of speculation.

    I agree that we also need to lighten the load when it comes to the deadwood within the club. It's not just the wage bill but also the need to open opportunities.

    As you would expect I do not go for many in your list of targets. I don't want Charlie Adam or N'Zogbia or Downing.
     
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  12. suarezlfc

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    It depends how you look at it though. For example, would you take Adam for Poulsen, Downing for Jovanovic and N'Zogbia for Cole?
    Of course I'd be slightly disappointed if that's all the business we did, but I'd be content with them as direct replacements.
     
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  13. citycityhull

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    You need 5 or 6 top players to compete at the highest level, you also want youth for the future. Look at your targets:
    Henderson - £15m
    Jones - £15m
    Nzogbia - £15m
    Downing/Young/Johnson/Mata - £15m
    You also need a true LB and another forward so say £20m

    You are likely to sell Cole, Aquilani, Jonavic, Poulson, Ayala, Konchesky, Ngog and a few fringe players, realisticly bringing in around £30m, this would give you a total outlay of £50m. Cant see Kenny compromising on getting a marquee signing at the expence of a player needed in another position
     
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  14. Kop79

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    Yes it would look good for the press
    But we don't want big names,we want hungry players young players
    I would rather LFC buy 3 or 4 players for 50mil£ then the same amount on a big name
    I think Kenny thinks and feels the same way

    But i'm sure the work on the squad is getting done as we speak

    IN KENNY I DO TRUST
     
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  15. Sharpe*

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    Welcome to the site!

    Interesting thread. I think we will have to sign someone for fairly big money, simply to get a decent player. Johnson I image would cost us around 20 million.

    We shouldnt, and won't, buy for the sake of it. But collectively we do need to spend quite a lot to get the squad improving. It needs freshening up with new, young, talented players.

    Not Downing though. Bloody hell! Unless it's for like 5 million
     
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  16. Alpha Kenny 1

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    Adam Jonhson would be a great signing if we could get him.
     
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    Yeah he's a class player, exactly what we need.
     
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    Why would that leave us with £50million? Where did you get your figures from? or where did you hear we have to sell to buy?

    Liverpool have the cash, They spent over £50mill in January. I know Torres also left for that fee, but Suarez would have signed any way, and in the best that £50mill would have gone to paying debts.

    Liverpool can match City this summer.
     
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  19. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    let's not start talking about splashing the cash. That's not what our business should be this summer. As others have said we need talented young hungry players who we can develop further. They won't be cheap because that's the diamonds that everybody is searching for.

    Now to help pay for them we also need to clear the decks of those players who have not or will not make the grade. That's just good club management. Fenway have said that they are prepared to spend to meet the club's (and their) long term interests. That's not selling to buy even though the cash raised would be useful.

    To further clarify my earlier post. I don't want Adam because he lacks pace and has really only had 1 good season. I would be cautious about N'Zogbia because he appears moody and we don't want players who will only put the effort in when they decide to. Downing flatters to decieve in my opinion - he has too many off days.
     
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  20. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

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    I'd prefer to see the likes of all quoted above joining the club over a marquee signing any day. However, we must not forget the importance of extending our fan base, especially in the far-east. So perhaps not the big European name with all the bells and whistles but a big name from the Asia-Pacific region; look at the superstar status that Park has over there....it's a money generator and increases the brand equity. So, a marquee signing may not come in the form of a big European name, but it may come in a different form; although, apart from Honda, I'm struggling with who that may be!
     
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